Evangelicals to Trump: ‘History Will Record the Greatness That You Have Brought’
What is really sad is when the media and so called “leaders” proclaim that these individuals are evangelical Christians. Paula White, who is heretical, a female pastor and has had three marriages is viewed as someone representing the views of a Christian. Unfortunately, History will not record the greatness. So sad that between this posting and the Liberty movie that Christians view this as a “prophetic savior”. When I was younger, I wondered how the AntiChrist was really going to come to power and really fool everyone. Now I am quite convinced that this will be easier for Satan than we really realize, and it will probably be the fake church that ushers him in. Well we know that Trump disdains fake news, but seems to embrace the fake church.
Hey don’t knock him. He also stated in this speech that Christians can now say “Merry Christmas” again. He is fixing things right and left.
Greatness?
The great mess Trump has made, perhaps.
I continue to appalled and amazed at how many Christians continue to support President Trump and his sinful and foolish behavior. At least we know that some of the people involved with this are false teachers.
As for this:
At the dinner, Trump claimed he ended “attacks on communities of faith.” “We’ve taken action to defend the religious conscience of doctors, nurses, teachers, students, preachers, faith groups, and religious employers,” he said in a speech laden with references to God.
What the President and Congress gives can also be rescinded by the President and Congress. Just keep that in mind…the backlash against Trump’s presidency is going to be something to behold.
"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells
“Greatness” wasn’t an option on the ballot in 2016, which said more about the citizenry than it did about the candidates. The two options were horribly flawed individuals. Even so, I am thankful at least we got Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh (yet to be confirmed), plus a host of conservative justices at the circuit court level. It doesn’t take much imagination to see what sort of judicial nominees President Hillary Clinton would have given us.
So the judicial appointments alone will long outlast the Trump presidency, with all its warts. We will have to wait and see the outcomes of some of Trump’s other moves in regards to trade and the economy. I understand he has done some good work in the area of deregulation and rolling back some of President Obama’s excesses.
But whenever I see any article involving evangelicals and Trump, my reaction is to say ‘God-fearing, morally sound, and personal integrity’ wasn’t a 2016 general election ballot option. I know there were some evangelicals who enthusiastically supported Trump in the primary to which I shake my head in disbelief, but once the options were reduced to Trump vs Clinton, evangelicals who did not support either in the primary had to choose between these two if they wanted to have any say in the outcome.
Things are eventually going to be pretty awkward for all of these “evangelicals.”
Some sooner than others…
Southern Baptist Convention President J.D. Greear has explained why he chose to attend last night’s White House dinner to honor evangelical leaders despite his calls for the denomination to decouple itself from political partisanship.
SBC President JD Greear Responds to Critics After Attending Trump White House Evangelical Dinner
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[Darrell Post]So the judicial appointments alone will long outlast the Trump presidency, with all its warts.
I don’t support much of the approach that Trump has taken. But I am glad for the infusion of the right viewpoints into the judicial system and some of the pro-business activities he has taken. Otherwise, not much else has been redeeming.
[Jim]
One of the words in that cartoon is extremely bad, and I would recommend that it be taken down. Extremely offensive. Take a look at the last frame and look up what c**** means. Should never have been posted.
Apart from the appropriateness of the cartoon, that is exactly where many of us stand today. And I agree with Darrell, too. Not all of us thought it would be helpful to vote 3rd-party, and judged Trump, with all his flaws, to be better than the alternative. Now that he’s president, those like me don’t think everything he is doing is good, by a long shot, but a lot of what is getting done policy-wise, is much better than the alternative would have been. Even in hindsight, I would have made the same decision at the voting booth.
Dave Barnhart
[dgszweda]Jim wrote:
One of the words in that cartoon is extremely bad, and I would recommend that it be taken down. Extremely offensive. Take a look at the last frame and look up what c**** means. Should never have been posted.
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cuck
A man who is desperate for acceptance, approval, and affection from women. This desperation has led to the compromise of his beliefs and values, the desecrationof his dignity and self-worth, and his inability to stand up for himself and what he deserves as a human being, eg. loyalty, fidelity, and honesty in a romantic relationship.
If that’s true, then my BJU Shakespeare professor has some ‘splaining to do.
Cuck comes from cuckold, and while a pejorative and not a word that should be applied to someone lightly (if at all), I think very few people find the word itself offensive. Prior to five minutes ago, I would’ve written probably no one finds the word itself offensive, but …. here we are.
Expanding on D.L. Creed’s definition, it refers to a man who knows he is married to an unfaithful woman but refuses to do anything about it.
Oxford dictionary says “cuck” is:
US informal A weak or servile man (often used as a contemptuous term for a man with moderate or progressive political views).
So in the context of the cartoon, it seems it is used exactly correctly, without anything I can see that would be “extremely offensive.”
Scott Smith, Ph.D.
The goal now, the destiny to come, holiness like God—
Gen 1:27, Lev 19:2, 1 Pet 1:15-16
I think we need to reevaluate passages like Ephesians 4:29 in light of the fact that those Anglo-Saxon words only became unacceptable after the Battle of Hastings, and hence the primary point of Paul’s prohibition of “corrupt communication” cannot possibly be just those words. Plus, Scripture refers in no uncertain terms to the perpetrators of adultery. Can that be OK, but somehow it’s wrong to refer to the victims?
Never mind the fact that I personally consider being called “Nazi” or “Hitler” a wee bit more corrupt than “cuck”. Yes, there’s a point where the seriousness of the sin just boggles the imagination, and there’s not a whole lot of point comparing some sins, but I dare say the allegation of wholesale slaughter of over ten million people beats out being cheated on by your wife. Just sayin’.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
[John E.]I would’ve written probably no one finds the word itself offensive, but …. here we are.
It is heavily used in the world of pornography, and probably why no one finds it offensive is that their blockers may be blocking it. If you turn your blockers off, and type cuckold into Google Search, you will find that >90% of the returns on the first 3 pages are anywhere from soft pornography to extremely hard pornography. After the first three pages it becomes 100% of the returns.
dgszweda, I don’t doubt that you’re correct about Google search results of the word. Sadly, we could put together a whole list of words that have an appropriate contextual use that if we were to type into a search engine would result in pornographic links. I’m not sure it’s necessary to start banning words because they’re used by pornographers.
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