Welcome to Sharper Iron ‘23

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Welcome to the latest iteration of Sharperiron.org. Since nobody knows what iteration we’re actually on, ‘23 it is!

First, thanks for your patience over the down time. Second, thanks for your continued patience as we work out bugs, finish construction in places, and tidy up a lot. Third, thanks for being a Sharper Iron reader, or—if the shoe fits—participant.

If you’re new to the site and attempting to register, the process may move a little slower than normal for a while. Though we’re working on our email configuration to eliminate things that tend to trigger spam filters, be sure to check your spam folders and mark SI emails as ‘not spam,’ if your email app has that feature.

Sundry Notes

  • Foundry and New Posts: Both of these sets of lists and filters are now on the Forum home page. New Posts has been renamed Recent Comments.
    • The New Posts RSS feed has also changed. See About Feeds.
    • Forum home has lots of little filters and such, so check it out.
  • Forum categories: There are no longer a bunch of ‘containers’ you can’t select with selectable sub-lists of ‘forums’ within them. Instead, we have seven broad Forum categories. You use tags to narrow your post down further.
  • The “Like” and “Dislike” response links available to logged in users have been replaced with upvote and downvote icons. The up/down vote concept is less feeling-oriented and a bit more vague. That’s the intent. Alas, the old like/dislike tallies have not been migrated. (This is not impossible, though, and might happen retroactively down the road.)
  • Flag for moderator attention: This is on the “won’t be long” do list.
  • Search still has a page and currently appears, a bit awkwardly, in the Forum menu. As of this writing, there is no comment search tool and no user search. These are on the “won’t be long” do-list. The page is designed as a single search field with facets for narrowing down results. The search tool has roughly a gazillion configuration options, with lots of opportunities to make it powerful or break it. So you all are beta testers.
  • Polls: All polls from the old site are closed, but aggregated in the Forum. New polls are created separately, then you make a forum post and add it to your post. Some instructions are included on the Add a Poll form.
  • Notification and registration emails: This seems to be working now, though we’ll know for sure after more people use it. As in the past, you have to post a comment to check the box for notification of future posts. Changing that is still on the long-term do list. A simple subscribe checkbox is more complicated than one would think.
  • Private Messages: The new system is under construction, but should mostly work. Improvements are on the to do list. You’ll see your old messages there marked “imported.”
  • RSS users: We won’t really know if those are working until content starts posting and some time passes for things to queue up and be processed. So we’ll see what happens and, no doubt, tweak. Since Facebook and Twitter get their SI stuff via RSS, some of that might look a bit wonky for a while.
  • Also on the do list: Build a tags page of some kind.
  • If you have difficulties or see problems not already noted here or in the comments, or have suggestions, feel free to post in the comments. If you can’t log on, and the contact form isn’t working, send an email to editor.sharperiron@gmail.com — or just wait a couple of days, if you don’t mind. Things will slowly normalize.

Thanks again for your support of SI and for your patience over the coming days as we get settled into the new platform.

Discussion

Looks great

So far, steady as she goes! A few things glitching here and there intermittently, so… watching for patterns.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

The site is attractive and uncluttered. Thank you for all this hard work to benefit this part of the Body of Christ. So appreciated.

"The Midrash Detective"

Glad you like it. I appreciate the feedback!

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

Thanks much for all your hard work in providing this resource for us.

I just want to see if I can post an emoji here. On the old site, something about collation didn’t allow that.

Here goes… 👍

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

I got this when I hit the back button after reading a recent forum comment:

An illegal choice has been detected. Please contact the site administrator.

It might be illegal, but hopefully not a crime!

Update: it might be just when I am clicking on the Forum Home option above.

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

I found it in the log. It actually happened about a dozen times in rapid succession. Something is glitching in the Recent Comments block day range filters. And the error doesn’t show until a bit later.

Or maybe the glitch happens when returning to it.

Will put the bug analysis hat back on (not that I actually took it off!). There’s another way to do that block and I may just build it over the weekend and see if it behaves better.

Edit: If you notice a pattern to it, post your observations here. That will help, I’m sure. I just tried to make it happen and couldn’t.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

I started getting that error also. Definitely the date range filters on Recent Comments. For now, I removed.

(The filters only become important when there is a single discussion with quite a lot of comments. Then you only see one thread for several pages, and you can’t see recent comments on other threads. So, the filters will be back soon.)

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

When you get the date range filters figured out, I would prefer that block to be at the top of the page, but I am sure there are reasons for everything. Just putting my vote in!

Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3

Don Johnson wrote: I would prefer that block to be at the top of the page

Will think about that… anybody else prefer that? It’s easy enough to move around.

In any case, that block/list has been replaced with a different design now that a. doesn’t error and b. makes the whole page load quite a bit faster.

One issue I noticed a bit ago… the “Who’s New” block on the Forum Home page is going to be wonky for a while. It looks at an access timestamp that that wasn’t migrated, so pretty much everybody is “new,” I think. It should start to make sense as actual new accounts are added.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

It would be helpful for me to have a New Posts link that worked like it did before. I had a shortcut set up to that page and it was very convenient for me to use that to see what was happening comment-wise on the site. Now, I have to go to Sharperiron/forum and scroll down to see Recent Comments. But then, if I click on the most recent comment, it goes to the top of the original post and not the new comment itself. So, that has been a bit frustrating to me from a user standpoint.

AndyE wrote: Now, I have to go to Sharperiron/forum and scroll down to see Recent Comments. But then, if I click on the most recent comment, it goes to the top of the original post and not the new comment itself.

The link issue should be fixed now so it takes you to the comment.

I think it might also be possible to make the old link work, which would have the additional advantage of reducing our 404s a bit. Will look into it.

Meanwhile, we have two votes now for “Recent Comments” at the top of the Forum page. … anyone else got an opinion on that?

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.

Personally, I like the format of the view at the top of that page rather than the way the “Recent Comments” section works (which only shows a couple threads and you have to go page by page). However, I’d prefer that all the posts with recent comments filter to the top, rather than mixing in with recent Posts that don’t have any comments. I’d rather those came after the commented posts. So in other words, sort by last time commented first rather than last time accessed or similar. Or, if it’s not too hard, at least make that a view option.

Dave Barnhart

dcbii wrote: So in other words, sort by last time commented first rather than last time accessed or similar. Or, if it’s not too hard, at least make that a view option.

Food for thought. I don’t think it would be hard to do. If it’s an option, it should probably be a sticky option so people don’t have to keep messing with it.

The downside of that is if someone posts a new discussion thread, it might not show, so new discussion could tend to get buried by current/older ones. But there may be a way to do both without cluttering things up too much or slowing the page down too much.

Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.