Fighting the Bantam Roosters: Baptist Fundamentalism Still Grapples with Its Colorful Heritage
Ninety years ago we gave ourselves a name: Fundamentalists.
“We suggest that those who still cling to the great fundamentals and who mean to do battle royal for the great fundamentals shall be called ‘Fundamentalists,’” wrote Curtis Lee Laws in the July 1, 1920 issue of the Watchman-Examiner, a Baptist newspaper with loose ties to the Northern Baptist Convention.
And 90 years later, we still discuss the implications of the Fundamentalist label. Back then, the issues seemed crystal clear: either you believed the Bible was true, or you didn’t. Simple to articulate and easy to defend, the idea of Fundamentalism was expressed as core doctrinal beliefs. Lines were drawn. Positions were staked. Ink was spilt, often.
But language is elastic, meaning is elusive, and sometimes words just wear out.
In an era when the media uses “fundamentalist” to describe suicide bombers and child molesters, is it wise for Baptist churches to continue using the term? Does the label still describe a simple set of historic beliefs, or has it come to mean a complicated system of dress codes and organ music, five simple ideas fractured by six degrees of separation?
If we all believe the same thing, why can’t we get along?
These were the issues that were addressed in the “Resolution on Revitalizing Biblical Fundamentalism” passed unanimously by messengers to the 2010 GARBC Conference on June 22 in Schaumburg, Ill. The resolution attempts to summarize several years of realignment among various Baptist groups that splintered in the 1970s. “While we recognize that the term has suffered at the hands of our critics and society at large, we can think of no other term that adequately reflects the heritage and the position of those who have historically stood for the truth of God’s Word,” the resolution says.
The resolution also calls on GARBC churches to “initiate relationships among fundamentalists where barriers have existed due to misunderstanding or political expedience, in a spirit of kind affection and brotherly love, in honor preferring one another.” While questions of inter-church cooperation have sometimes been difficult for Fundamentalists to answer, the resolution asks churches to “establish networks of labor and ministry to meet the challenges of the future, equipping older organizations for the present task where possible, or establishing new ministries where restoration of the old is either impossible or inadvisable.”
Read the full text of the “Resolution on Revitalizing Biblical Fundamentalism”
James Maxwell, president of Faith Baptist Bible College and member of the GARBC Council of Eighteen, drafted the resolution, assisted by Kevin Bauder, president of Central Baptist Theological Seminary. (“Doctor Maxwell wrote 99 percent of it,” Bauder says. “He’s been thinking about this for a long time.”) Maxwell also consulted with George Houghton, retired dean of education at Faith Baptist Bible College; and several GARBC pastors, including Tom Alexander, Bryan Augsburger, and David Strope.
“It’s been my desire to see the structures of Fundamentalism rebuilt,” Maxwell said to the GARBC Council of Eighteen when the proposed resolution was discussed a day before its vote. “Fundamentalist unity really started to deteriorate in earnest in 1977, when John R. Rice tried to put together the largest meeting of Fundamentalists ever, at Cobo Hall in Detroit.”
But Rice ended up inviting people who were not historic Fundamentalists, Maxwell says, and as a result, the GARBC and several other groups pulled out. “Since that day I believe the infrastructure of Fundamentalism has been fissured,” Maxwell told the council.
In a later interview with the Baptist Bulletin, Maxwell offered another reason for Fundamentalist rifts.
“I grew up on a farm. My father owned one bantam rooster, an extremely colorful and gorgeous bird. He was beautiful—and he knew it!”
“Back in the 1970s, Fundamentalism became a bantam rooster scratching in the barnyard dirt. We ended up separating over personalities and politics. If you weren’t sufficiently abrasive and in-your-face, you weren’t worthy of being called a Fundamentalist,” Maxwell says.
For the past several years, John Greening has been leading the GARBC to patch up some of the fissures caused by the bantam roosters. “There are other independent Baptists who share our convictions. I want to make new friends with them,” Greening said during his annual address as national representative to the conference messengers. “The GARBC is not a closed club. The speakers we have had at our conference last year, this year, and will have next year, are indicative of that.”
One such example is Tim Jordan, pastor of Calvary Baptist Church, Lansdale, Pennsylvania. He arrived at the conference a day before he was scheduled to preach, just to hang out and hear the other preachers, meet people, and rub shoulders with ministry leaders he knew from other places. And Tim freely admits his outsider status.
Old-timers called Tim’s dad “Chief,” as in, the chief of a different tribe of Baptist Fundamentalists, one that rarely intersected with the GARBC. Now pastoring what was once his father’s church, Tim no longer sees a lot of difference between the two groups.
“So, why is it that we weren’t fellowshipping sooner?” Tim asked before his sermon on Wednesday of the conference, pronouncing his words with at least a little sarcasm—and exasperation. “So … what was the difference?”
Jordan made it clear that he is all for the recent change of mood among Baptists, calling it “an enormous ‘Duh.’”
“So, yeah, kind of like amazing,” Tim says of the conference week. “It has been a joy to be here and I want to thank all of those involved in allowing me to come.”
And the dress codes, the organ music, the war over Bible translations? Jordan addressed these during an afternoon workshop, making a clear distinction between the baggage of cultural fundamentalism and the ideas of historic Fundamentalism.
“If we produce ‘biblical’ reasons for cultural fundamentalism, they [the young Fundamentalists] know you are lying,” Jordan said. “And why do they know you are lying? It’s because you are!”
Jordan stressed the idea of historic Fundamentalism as a way of defending the movement’s ideas to younger pastors and seminary students. “They’re not going to do the ‘emperor’s clothes’ thing anymore,” Jordan said of the young leaders, suggesting “they won’t leave if you don’t lie to them!”
Dan Davey, pastor of Colonial Hills Baptist Church in Virginia Beach, Virginia, was keynote speaker for the GARBC conference. Like Tim Jordan, Davey leads a congregation that is also not in the GARBC, but he agrees with Tim’s summary of the week, and his definition of Fundamentalism.
“I’m a historic Fundamentalist and I use that term a lot with my church,” Davey says, feeling comfortable using the term “as long as you read it from my dictionary.” Both he and Jordan credit consistent expository preaching as their main teaching tool. “Our pulpits are a treasure from the Lord,” Davey says. “In our pulpit, we can provide the definition for our terms. We are a Baptist church—here’s what that means. We are historic Fundamentalists—here’s what that means.”
But Davey also warns of the complicated road ahead for Baptist Fundamentalists who attempt to restate a common set of beliefs—starting with nuanced terminology that can cause some regional confusion. “I would never use the phrase ‘biblical Fundamentalism’ with my congregation,” Davey says, referring to the title of the recently passed GARBC resolution. For Baptist Fundamentalists in the South, the phrase “biblical Fundamentalism” usually means a particular brand of KJV-only church, Davey says.
Having studied with Richard Clearwaters at Central Baptist Theological Seminary in Minneapolis, Davey arrived in Virginia Beach still calling himself a “biblicist” (Clearwaters’ preferred label). But Davey discovered that “biblicist” didn’t work so well for Baptists in the South, what with Pat Robertson just a few miles down the road, famously calling himself a … biblicist. So Davey learned to adjust the terminology he uses, patiently teaching his congregation a new dictionary to replace preconceived notions.
Evangelicals who are reading over our shoulder at this point may feel tempted to gloat about the Fundamentalist identity crisis—until they recall their own struggles over labels. Having dropped the “neo” tag long ago, evangelicals adopted lifeless adjectives like “ecumenical,” an optimistic word describing their willingness to cooperate with anyone and everyone in mass evangelism. Kevin Bauder once described this misstep as “more and more people being converted to less and less Christianity.”
Haunted by their own unfulfilled promise, some evangelicals began adding adjectives such as “conservative” to clarify their intention to build orthodox, gospel-centered churches. And David Wells, writing in The Courage to Be Protestant, suggested “evangelical” may have outlived its usefulness. “Despite its honorable pedigree, despite its many outstanding leaders both past and some in the present, and despite many genuine and upright believers who think of themselves as evangelical, it may now have to be abandoned,” Wells said of the term.
Organizations such as the Gospel Coalition, Together for the Gospel, and the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals made enormous strides in distancing themselves from the excesses of their own movement. Carefully articulating a set of doctrinal beliefs, the conservative evangelicals then did a curious thing: they distanced themselves from other Christians who were disorderly in conduct and doctrine.
Over in our neck of the woods, we would call it “separation,” but that term had its baggage, too.
“After 1960, biblical separation became a badge of honor that replaced Bible exposition in the pulpits,” Davey says, choosing his words carefully. As a younger pastor, Davey was mentored by Ernest Pickering, the author of Biblical Separation: The Struggle for a Pure Church. Davey continues to affirm Pickering’s ideas about so-called “secondary separation” (another label!). But Davey also warns that the right separation idea, wrongly coupled with a misapplied cultural fundamentalism, could well destroy the movement. The key, for Davey, is a return to expository preaching and doctrinal clarity, the sort of pulpit ministry that was consistently modeled during the recent GARBC Conference.
John Greening emphasized the same thing when addressing the conference messengers. “I want doctrinally compatible churches and ministries to feel comfortable and confident enough in the GARBC to say that they have found in us a new friend. We should cultivate relationships for fellowship, but also for ministry initiatives such as publishing, training church leaders, global missions, and assisting stateside church planting.”
Meanwhile, James Maxwell is already at work. “Today we are seeing coalitions that would not have been possible 20 years ago,” he told the Council of Eighteen earlier in the week. He should know. One such coalition is the proposed merger between his school, Faith Baptist Bible College, and Bauder’s school, Central Baptist Theological Seminary, Plymouth, Minn. Other signs of growing Fundamentalist cooperation include the annual Men for Christ rallies, local efforts to support Baptist social agencies, annual meetings of the Bible Faculty Leadership Summit, and support of Baptist missionaries by churches in several different Baptist fellowships.
“I believe there needs to be a voice for biblical Fundamentalism that is broader than our own fellowship of churches,” James Maxwell told the Council of Eighteen. And despite Fundamentalism’s long history of bantam roosters, no one on the council looked particularly surprised.
In Tim Jordan’s words, the idea is “an enormous ‘Duh.’”
Kevin Mungons is managing editor of the Baptist Bulletin and editorial director of publications for Regular Baptist Press (Schaumburg, IL). He has previously ministered as an associate pastor and a high school music teacher. He and his wife, Carla, have ten children and live near Chicago. This essay will appear in the September/October issue of the Baptist Bulletin. See www.BaptistBulletin.org for links to 2010 GARBC Conference audio, photo galleries, and conference stories.
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I wouldn’t waste a line of text to defend MacArthur or Resolved.I would.
We don’t have to be disloyal to brothers in Christ in order to be loyal to Christ. But pointing out what’s not good isn’t disloyal to Mac & co. (arguably, not pointing out would be) and pointing out what is good in their work isn’t disloyal to Christ.
I think it was British statesman of old who coined the phrase “loyal opposition.” Perhaps it would be one good way to describe our relationship w/the better non-fundamentalist evangelicals out there.
(There are problems with it, too, though, because of the political connotation and idea of parties fighting eachother… but the idea of being loyal to and opposing in some ways at the same time. I think that’s useful.)
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I think that is why I don’t feel it is a ‘betrayal’ of Fundamentalism or sound doctrine to consider what good and honest men have to say about their interpretations of Scripture, whether I agree with their interpretations or not. I can enjoy the sermons and writings of many a preacher/teacher, because what I am concerned about is their level of integrity more than what Bible version they are reading from or what school they went to. I can sort out the information for myself, and in doing so I have been challenged to defend what beliefs I hold sacred, gained some valuable perspective, and exercised my discernment. What’s not to love about that?
You and I have already done this before, so I will keep this short. Your response pretty much demonstrates the type of dangerous and unhealthy “cultural fundamentalism” that Tim and Dan were talking about (IMO). Your approach assumes that a variety of sub-movement views concerning “levels of separation,” “approach to music,” should be clearly “this” or “that.” A growing majority of those who are still connected to a self-identified “fundamentalism” are wanting to get away from your approach because they’re simply not convinced that the Scriptures teach your view. You seem to be confused as to why this is. Don, I’m trying to help you here. For most of us, unless God’s Word is objectively being violated in worship, preaching, fellowship and such then to quote the Scriptures…..”All things are lawful.” Don, the Scriptures are clear that maligning your brothers….”are not lawful!” I personally believe you violate the Scriptures towards our evangelical brothers when you just make large statements that evangelicals don’t care about responding to sin or foolishness in ministry. You have to be kidding me! I was ill when I read some of your statements. More importantly you grieve the Holy Spirit of God with these kinds of statements you make. None of these evangelicals are putting feet to their faith? Wow! Frankly, you’re not in a place to make that kind of a statement. Based on what you’ve said in this and other forums, I believe you’ve isolated yourself enough not only from other fundamental brothers (think really smaller part of the body of Christ) but also from the larger evangelical church (think larger than group 1). Therefore with your ecclesiastical approach to ministry and limited “line of sight” with these guys…..there’s just no way you can know what they’re doing or not doing. You are going beyond the clarity of the Scriptures my brother. When you make the friends of God, the enemies of brethren, you are truly in a dangerous place.
Straight Ahead!
jt
Dr. Joel Tetreau serves as Senior Pastor, Southeast Valley Bible Church (sevbc.org); Regional Coordinator for IBL West (iblministry.com), Board Member & friend for several different ministries;
[Joel Tetreau] You seem to be confused as to why this is. Don, I’m trying to help you here. For most of us, unless God’s Word is objectively being violated in worship, preaching, fellowship and such then to quote the Scriptures…..”All things are lawful.”I don’t think I’m confused, Joel, but let me give a bit of context: But all things are not expedient. Are we even now?
[Joel Tetreau] Don, the Scriptures are clear that maligning your brothers….”are not lawful!” I personally believe you violate the Scriptures towards our evangelical brothers when you just make large statements that evangelicals don’t care about responding to sin or foolishness in ministry. You have to be kidding me! I was ill when I read some of your statements. More importantly you grieve the Holy Spirit of God with these kinds of statements you make. None of these evangelicals are putting feet to their faith? Wow! Frankly, you’re not in a place to make that kind of a statement. Based on what you’ve said in this and other forums, I believe you’ve isolated yourself enough not only from other fundamental brothers (think really smaller part of the body of Christ) but also from the larger evangelical church (think larger than group 1). Therefore with your ecclesiastical approach to ministry and limited “line of sight” with these guys…..there’s just no way you can know what they’re doing or not doing. You are going beyond the clarity of the Scriptures my brother. When you make the friends of God, the enemies of brethren, you are truly in a dangerous place.Hmm… where did I actually say these things? Why are you making this personal? Why are not dealing with the statements I actually made?
I think I am going to bow out of this thread after one more comment on worldliness. I’ll ask the moderators (other than Joel) to evaluate the appropriateness of Joel’s post. I think he is going a little over the top.
Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3
[Mike Durning]Actually, I think the definitions here are exactly what the Bible means, especially the term worldly, which only occurs twice in the NT. There are a couple of other terms some versions translate as worldly, but these uses likewise don’t distort the meaning.[Don Johnson] worldly: of or pertaining to this world as contrasted with heaven, spiritual life, etc.; earthly; mundane.My point exactly. We need to define these Biblically. A discussion on Worldliness is already started, and you yourself have posted ably on the topic, so I know you get this idea.
[worldly. Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged. Random House, Inc. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/worldly (accessed: July 04, 2010).]
sensual: pertaining to, inclined to, or preoccupied with the gratification of the senses or appetites; carnal; fleshly.
[sensual. Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com Unabridged. Random House, Inc. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sensual (accessed: July 04, 2010).]
[Mike Durning] But I might point out that worldliness in the Scriptures cannot mean simply “like the world.” If so, we’re certainly uneven in our application of anti-worldliness strictures, and people like the Amish are far more righteous than we.But now you are talking about a different term. Worldliness is not the same s worldly. And it actually isn’t a biblical term at all.
I have been writing recently on this topic at my own site, if you go there, you can find them under the category ‘worldliness’ on the Archives page. I am a little behind on writing about it, I have been teaching this topic in our church, but I have too many irons in the fire and haven’t had time to keep up with writing articles.
As I noted in my earlier post, I am going to bow out of this thread. I think that I have said all I want to say about the original post and it appears that emotions are getting stirred up. So I think it best to just leave it alone for now. I wouldn’t mind talking more about worldliness generally, if there is a current discussion of it going on here, I’d be willing to participate as I can. Any interested parties could also interact with my posts at oxgoad.
Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3
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I look forward to finding out for myself. :)
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"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells
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[Don J] I think he is going a little over the top.Well, he’s passionate, that’s for sure.
I personally think there’s a bit of hyperbole there.
unless God’s Word is objectively being violated in worship, preaching, fellowship and such then to quote the ScripturesWhat does “objectively being violated” mean?
But more to the point, the judgment that evangelicals don’t care about worldliness etc., is pretty square with my experience. I wouldn’t say “all evangelicals,” because in my view, fundamentalists are evangelicals. And I know lots of both fundies and non-fundies who don’t care about worldliness… and both fundies and nonfundies who do care. But given what “evangelical” means, we’re pretty safe saying the majority don’t care a whole lot about holy living.
But Joel, there’s nothing unloving or unchristian about pointing out error. Faithful are the wounds of a friend.
Where we get into trouble is when the mote and beam thing is going on, but Jesus did say that when you’ve gotten the beam out of your own eye, it is appropriate to go after the mote in your brother’s eye. (Matt 7.5)
Maybe both Don and Joel have expressed their perspective in overly expansive terms.
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[Joel Tetreau] Don,If I could echo every word of this post… thanks.
You and I have already done this before, so I will keep this short. Your response pretty much demonstrates the type of dangerous and unhealthy “cultural fundamentalism” that Tim and Dan were talking about (IMO). Your approach assumes that a variety of sub-movement views concerning “levels of separation,” “approach to music,” should be clearly “this” or “that.” A growing majority of those who are still connected to a self-identified “fundamentalism” are wanting to get away from your approach because they’re simply not convinced that the Scriptures teach your view. You seem to be confused as to why this is. Don, I’m trying to help you here. For most of us, unless God’s Word is objectively being violated in worship, preaching, fellowship and such then to quote the Scriptures…..”All things are lawful.” Don, the Scriptures are clear that maligning your brothers….”are not lawful!” I personally believe you violate the Scriptures towards our evangelical brothers when you just make large statements that evangelicals don’t care about responding to sin or foolishness in ministry. You have to be kidding me! I was ill when I read some of your statements. More importantly you grieve the Holy Spirit of God with these kinds of statements you make. None of these evangelicals are putting feet to their faith? Wow! Frankly, you’re not in a place to make that kind of a statement. Based on what you’ve said in this and other forums, I believe you’ve isolated yourself enough not only from other fundamental brothers (think really smaller part of the body of Christ) but also from the larger evangelical church (think larger than group 1). Therefore with your ecclesiastical approach to ministry and limited “line of sight” with these guys…..there’s just no way you can know what they’re doing or not doing. You are going beyond the clarity of the Scriptures my brother. When you make the friends of God, the enemies of brethren, you are truly in a dangerous place.
Straight Ahead!
jt
[Joel Tetreau] Don,We need Joel to write a more detailed article based on these thoughts. I will purchase the new Lawn 6000 for Joel after he is finished :) Good stuff! Needed stuff! Thanks brother!
You and I have already done this before, so I will keep this short. Your response pretty much demonstrates the type of dangerous and unhealthy “cultural fundamentalism” that Tim and Dan were talking about (IMO). Your approach assumes that a variety of sub-movement views concerning “levels of separation,” “approach to music,” should be clearly “this” or “that.” A growing majority of those who are still connected to a self-identified “fundamentalism” are wanting to get away from your approach because they’re simply not convinced that the Scriptures teach your view. You seem to be confused as to why this is. Don, I’m trying to help you here. For most of us, unless God’s Word is objectively being violated in worship, preaching, fellowship and such then to quote the Scriptures…..”All things are lawful.” Don, the Scriptures are clear that maligning your brothers….”are not lawful!” I personally believe you violate the Scriptures towards our evangelical brothers when you just make large statements that evangelicals don’t care about responding to sin or foolishness in ministry. You have to be kidding me! I was ill when I read some of your statements. More importantly you grieve the Holy Spirit of God with these kinds of statements you make. None of these evangelicals are putting feet to their faith? Wow! Frankly, you’re not in a place to make that kind of a statement. Based on what you’ve said in this and other forums, I believe you’ve isolated yourself enough not only from other fundamental brothers (think really smaller part of the body of Christ) but also from the larger evangelical church (think larger than group 1). Therefore with your ecclesiastical approach to ministry and limited “line of sight” with these guys…..there’s just no way you can know what they’re doing or not doing. You are going beyond the clarity of the Scriptures my brother. When you make the friends of God, the enemies of brethren, you are truly in a dangerous place.
Straight Ahead!
jt
So just a closing thought or two and I think we’ll close it.
I believe both Don and Joel have some good points. And the “personalness” of Joel’s response to Don is well intended and not “wrong.” But, at the same time, we don’t really want to encourage that kind of personal focus on another poster in these discussions. It distracts from thoughtful interaction about principles and applications. The personal stuff is better in PMs or emails.
Where sensitive topics are involved, there’s always a temptation to blur how we feel about the ideas with how we feel about the person posting them. Of course, the two are truly closely related, but the person delivering the ideas doesn’t really have much bearing on whether they are true or not. Nor does going after the person prove his ideas untrue. So in a discussion (or debate), it’s not very relevant.
And there’s something a tad ironic about taking a brother to task for taking other brothers to task. ;) Criticism in all directions can and should be delivered thoughtfully and with the Spirit-fruit of gentleness. When it is, there is often great value in it (Gal 2.11, 1 Thess 5.14, Prov.27:6, 2 Tim. 2.24-25).
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