Kentucky Billboard questions Baptist beliefs

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Rob Fall's picture

It would help the advertiser's cause if believing John the Baptist was the founder of Baptist Churches was a commonly held position among Baptists.  AFAIK, it's held by a few but is not even close to a majority position.

Hoping to shed more light than heat..

Andrew K.'s picture

This sets a pretty low standard for dialogue.

神是爱

Dick Dayton's picture

One of the bet statements of our convictions The Lord brought to me is not our acrostic, but a logical, biblically based structure shared by Dr. Collin Smith, then of BBC in PA, and now home with The Lord. It stood up to rigorous thought 

Dick Dayton

Mark_Smith's picture

Who thinks John the Baptist founded the baptist church?

Andrew K.'s picture

Mark_Smith wrote:

Who thinks John the Baptist founded the baptist church?

Marvin H. Strawman.

神是爱

Rob Fall's picture

a preacher voice the idea in an obviously jocular manner.  And in the last 40 years, it's only been one.

Mark_Smith wrote:

Who thinks John the Baptist founded the baptist church?

Hoping to shed more light than heat..

josh p's picture

There are several "landmark" or "baptist bride" churches around us in Wa. It is not that uncommon. Of the 5 or so IFB churches in the county I believe 2 or possibly 3 are Landmark.

Chip Van Emmerik's picture

josh p wrote:

There are several "landmark" or "baptist bride" churches around us in Wa. It is not that uncommon. Of the 5 or so IFB churches in the county I believe 2 or possibly 3 are Landmark.

That's really strange. Most Landmark churches attempt to claim a lineage back to the apostles, but even they don't usually try to point to John the Baptist as founder of the Baptist denomination - particularly since he was martyred before the church was mentioned by Jesus or actually initiated in Acts.

Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?

josh p's picture

I believe every IFB church in our county except two also believe the KJV is inspired in English and one of those believes something similar. We live in a strange area.

Ron Bean's picture

The Landmarker/Baptist Briders I've known held the Christ started the Baptist church. 

The Church of Christ men I've encountered considered Baptist's denial of baptismal regeneration heresy and often started their arguments with the claim that Baptists named their denomination after John the baptist while they named theirs after Christ. 

"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan

TylerR's picture

Editor

There are a few churches loosely connected to our orbit that believe Baptist churches (complete with the acrostic distinctives) can trace their origin back to Christ. They are also of the inspired-KJVO mindset. I know it isn't a rule, but in my limited experience these two views seem to go in tandem.

Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and an Investigations Manager with a Washington State agency. He's the author of the book What's It Mean to Be a Baptist?

Chip Van Emmerik's picture

Yeah, most (all?) of the Landmarkists and Briders I've known were KJVO, I just haven't seen many claiming John the Baptist for their namesake. 

Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?

jimcarwest's picture

no one in their right mind, I would say.  Certainly, no one who rightly divides the Word.