Convictions and Complexities about Drinking
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Today I am going to take a stab at applying convictions and preferences to the subject of drinking. Let’s begin with convictions.
Convictions in General
A conviction is a belief or value we embrace as a crucial part of what we stand for and who we are. It is very different from a preference—or merely assenting to a belief or value.
For the believer, there are two levels of conviction. The first level—the deepest level—involves biblical conviction, although some deep convictions may extend beyond the Bible (e.g., a soldier surrendering his life for our country’s freedom). Our biblical convictions should be first and foremost. Where the Bible is emphatic, we must be clear and take a firm stand. This does not mean we must demand others to take that stand, but we certainly must urge fellow believers to follow what the Word actually says. This is not necessarily what we think it says, but what it actually says.
The difference between a biblical conviction and a preference is that we would suffer loss rather than disavow our biblical convictions. It may mean we lose a job, flunk a class, or be ostracized. In some nations, it means imprisonment or even death.
A preference, however, is something we prefer, but would not suffer for. For example, if we preferred to attend church Sunday mornings but lived in a culture where Friday was the national day off (as in a Muslim country), we could adjust and conduct church on Friday.
As our society becomes more aggressively anti-Christian, we are often disappointed to see supposed believers who (we thought had convictions) cave in. We discover that their “convictions” were actually preferences.
A lesser level of conviction involves beliefs that are not emphasized in the Bible; these are matters of conscience. Paul mandates we respect one another’s consciences in Romans 14:1-23 and I Corinthians 8:1-13.
Use of Alcohol, the Bible, and Evangelical/Fundamental History
Many Christians suggest that the Bible teaches moderation in drinking, while many others have concluded that the Bible teaches total abstinence. My suspicion is that the younger generations are more likely to embrace drinking, while the older generations oppose the idea.
Some of us choose to avoid alcohol—not because we believe it is wrong in moderation—but because it would be wrong for us. Take my case: I hail from a long line of alcoholics, including my father, uncles, and both grandfathers. I may have a genetic predisposition, so I am better off not getting into the habit.
How did abstinence and conservative evangelical/fundamental Christianity become paired together in the first place? In 1750, no Christians (to my knowledge) were against drinking in moderation. The Puritans, for example, would discuss theology while drinking ale. All churches used fermented wine for communion. How did things change?
Change began with the temperance movement. Evangelical Christians have a heritage of supporting the temperance movement of the early 20th century (that resulted in Prohibition). Because of the push against alcohol, a company named “Welch’s” began bottling unfermented grape juice—for communion use!
In addition, conservative evangelicals started rescue missions over 100 years ago—before the current secular “soup kitchens” caught on. People who have an alcoholic background are often brought down by just one drink, so our spiritual forefathers’ attempts at helping these people meant across-the-board abstinence for all church members. Some church covenants still require church members to totally abstain.
Today we battle all sorts of drug abuse, making substance abuse one of America’s premiere issues. Most people have concluded that Prohibition was a drastic mistake, and few of us are working with rehabilitated alcoholics. Like it or not, many Christians in America are now drinkers, at least on occasion. At the same time, we are completely free to abstain. We do not need to start drinking to prove with are with the times, free, or flexible!
When it comes to the Bible, alcohol use (in moderation) is the biblical example. The Greek word for unfermented wine (trux or trugia) is never used in the New Testament. Indeed, it is hard to imagine how someone could stumble over using grape juice (if that is what “wine” meant, as some claim) in Romans 14:21. A natural interpretation—and all Bible versions agree—tell us that Jesus turned the water to wine, not grape juice. We must pursue a biblical (rather than historical and agenda-driven) ethic.
Many Christians believe drinking alcohol is wrong, even in moderation. Others choose to abstain because of a logical argument (alcohol does more harm than good). Others take a moderation approach. But all of us need to be sensitive to others.
We do not allow alcohol at church events for good reason. Romans 14:21 (ESV) reads:
Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble.
Sometimes we need to adjust our habits based upon those around us, but only at the time. Otherwise we would all be abstainers and all vegetarians! Consideration for those who have sincere beliefs is a good thing; this is not the same as letting people with legalistic bents bully and impose their rules upon us.
Paul is talking about “weaker brothers” who would not be upset they didn’t get their way—but would be truly hurt—and perhaps emboldened to do things that bothered their consciences.
Moderation and Christian Alcoholics
Alcoholism within the Christian world is a genuine problem. Some people are typically driven toward excesses. Others (like Native American Indians) have a biological factor that makes alcohol highly addictive.
Drunkenness is a sin. Ephesians 5:18 says, “And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit” (NASB). The problem, though, is that most alcoholics (or occasional drunks) live in denial. One time, I knew a man who became so drunk he got in a fight with a fire hydrant. He lost. But he would talk about being able to “hold his liquor” and “not being drunk a day in his life.” The denial factor is strong.
Because we seem to have two polarized camps—drinking is always wrong or drinking is okay—we have failed to give real guidance to those who do drink.
So here is my attempt to do so. If you do drink, do you have to drink every single day? Or do you generally drink more than two or three drinks in a given day, or more than ten drinks a week? Are you safely within the boundaries of moderation? (For more information on defining moderation, see www.moderatedrinking.com.)
If you have a problem, you should elicit the prayer support of discreet members of our church family (like our elders, for example). There is no shame about enrolling in a treatment program or seeking Christian counseling.
All of us have our struggles; we all need the Holy Spirit to work within us through the Word, prayer, and relational involvement with our church family. Sometimes the best way to overcome sin is to focus upon loving God and loving others.
Ed Vasicek Bio
Ed Vasicek was raised as a Roman Catholic but, during high school, Cicero (IL) Bible Church reached out to him, and he received Jesus Christ as his Savior by faith alone. Ed earned his BA at Moody Bible Institute and served as pastor for many years at Highland Park Church, where he is now pastor emeritus. Ed and his wife, Marylu, have two adult children. Ed has published over 1,000 columns for the opinion page of the Kokomo Tribune, published articles in Pulpit Helps magazine, and posted many papers which are available at edvasicek.com. Ed has also published the The Midrash Key and The Amazing Doctrines of Paul As Midrash: The Jewish Roots and Old Testament Sources for Paul's Teachings.
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[Jim]
- The drinking in moderation vs total abstinence would fall into the “opinion” category
- Take for example the criteria of: is there a “Consensus among Christians (past and present)”
- Fundamentalists tend to collapse the concentric circles and make everything of utmost importance.
I would have to say that not only do we tend to make everything of utmost importance, but in doing so, we often undermine what is truly important. For example, if you ask many fundamentalists for an explanation of the Trinity, you will often get the ice-water-steam explanation that is actually a better explanation for Modalism, which is a heresy. In the same way, when one makes questions (should we dance, should we drink, should we eat meat) pretty much a criteria for fellowship, we undermine grace alone and faith alone.
“Majoring on the minors”, as it were.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
[Bert Perry]Don, exactly why should we ignore the fact that Paul further defines why he might, or might not, eat meat or drink wine in 1 Corinthians? Or why the possibility of abstaining from meat or wine would be counter-intuitive to those who understood them as a gift?
There is a lot of information to deal with in comparing the passages. I am preaching through Romans 14 just now. Well, I finished it last Sunday. I started on January 11. I also did a side bar on 1 Cor 8-10. A lot of material to cover, really not time to do it here, but if you are interested you can check out my sermons at gbcvic.org, pdfs are included for each message.
[Bert Perry] The exegesis of difficult passages is always supposed to occur in light of other passages on the topic, and with an understanding of the culture to whom those passages were written. For example, let’s try to parse out 1 Tim. 2:15 without appealing to our knowledge of history and that culture. Do we conclude that we need to keep our wives barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, or else they be damned?If we exclude parallel passages and a reference to their culture, that is exactly what we ought to conclude.
1 Tim 2.15 is irrelevant to this discussion.
Romans 14 is not difficult. Paul is very specific about the kinds of things he is talking about. He is not talking about idolatry. Do you think that someone who spent three chapters dealing with idolatry amongst the Corinthians would not specifically mention it if he was dealing with the same issue with the Romans? Especially seeing as where he is writing from?
My point in this is not to take up the wider point of this thread, but to address the errant interpretation of Romans 14 that many people accept without dealing with the text. There is no way you can read Rm 14 as dealing with idolatry without reading that into the text. You have to leave your presuppositions aside and let the Bible speak.
Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3
What I find compelling: The Corinthians, among their many problems, had an issue with people getting drunk at communion (I Corinthians 11:21):
- Yet Paul, provided a golden opportunity to expound on the need to abstain from intoxicating beverage (that which caused their drunkenness), said …
- “eat and drink” at home (1 Corinthians 11:22)
- It would seem that the immediate context would equate “drink” in vs 22 with the drink that caused their drunkenness in vs 21.
There is a plethora of advice in the Scripture about
- Drunkenness being sin
- Habitual drunks not entering the kingdom
- The dangers of abuse of intoxicants
- The love rule of not offending
- Et cetera
I find the above sufficient without mandating a ban that the Scriptures do not.
Further … there are many good things (moral advice or safety advice) to take positions on. Like:
- Save to have an emergency fund
- Or prepare for retirement by having a lifetime of savings
- Or wearing a seatbelt
- Or not speeding
- Or voting conservatively (which would generally mean for a Republican)
Yet somehow drink has become the focus. I think that fundamentalism married itself to the temperance movement in a way that dilutes the gospel by taking the focus off what is truly important.
[Jim]What I find compelling: The Corinthians, among their many problems, had an issue with people getting drunk at communion (I Corinthians 11:21):
- Yet Paul, provided a golden opportunity to expound on the need to abstain from intoxicating beverage (that which caused their drunkenness), said …
- “eat and drink” at home (1 Corinthians 11:22)
Interesting point. However, the issue then and the issue today are different. I don’t think that you can argue strict abstinence from the passages of Scripture or deny that Christians in Bible times actually drank fermented beverages. However, I think you can argue from the Scripture based on the nature of fermented beverages we have today. The substance and the culture is vastly different and there are sufficient Scriptural reasons for prohibition of today’s beverage/culture that we don’t need an explicit Scriptural prohibition to make the argument.
Maranatha!
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3
I just don’t get it. Everyone knows that the church has historically not a problem with drinking in moderation. Israel clearly drank in moderation. We all know that prohibition is a very new thing in history. A completely abstinent position is just a blip on the radar of history. Are the total abstinence people saying that it took the church this long to get it right? Thank goodness for America in the 1800s because we finally figured out what God really meant about alcohol.
FWIW, I have no problems at all with a total abstinence position out of preference or conviction. I think it is wise in probably many cases. I am a non-drinker myself. But a mandate for all Christianity? That is just indefensible.
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For those who insist the Corinthians used alcoholic wine for the Lord’s Supper:
(1) It never says they did.
(2) “Drunk” is contrasted with not having enough to eat, and the passage is only speaking of eating, not wine.
(3) The word “drunk” can obviously mean intoxicated, but it can also simply mean filled or satiated. Notice it contrasts being drunk (or filled with food), with others being hungry (1 Corinthians 11:21); not with others having no wine.
(4) Even if the Corinthians were using alcoholic wine for the Lord’s Supper, Paul is not complimenting them but reproving them.
(5) Should we use what may be the most immature church in the New Testament as our example in this regard?
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[Don Johnson] However, the issue then and the issue today are different
The “That was then and this is now” argument: Goes like this:
- Wine then is not wine now
- Because wine now is different, the Scriptures cited do not apply
The “That was then and this is now” argument:
- The argument invalidates and eviscerates the Scriptures!
- And … whatever they were drinking in 1 Cor 11 was enough to get them drunk!
That PBS special about the prohibition movement is well worth watching. It is fascinating how we have been groomed to think the way we do about alcohol.
The overseer is to “not given to wine” (1 Tim 3:3) while the deacon is to be “not given to much wine” (1 Tim 3:8)
What I deduce from this:
- The wine is most certainly intoxicating else why would the overseer need to eschew?!
- I see a higher standard for the higher office (the teaching office)
- For the overseer (and I would see this as the pastor-elder-bishop): Abstain
- For the deacon: OK in moderation.
Of course the “that was then .. this is now” would again invalidate this text. It would have no relevance to the current discussion.
“Should we use what may be the most immature church in the New Testament as our example in this regard?”
Actually I am not using them as an example but rather making the very cogent and unanswered point that Paul in that case did not call them the abstain.
To make “drunk” = to “satiated with food” is laughable! Find another place where μεθύω = “satiated with food”. Next you will be equating it with sleeplessness (1Th 5:7)
[Don Johnson]Jim wrote:
What I find compelling: The Corinthians, among their many problems, had an issue with people getting drunk at communion (I Corinthians 11:21):
- Yet Paul, provided a golden opportunity to expound on the need to abstain from intoxicating beverage (that which caused their drunkenness), said …
- “eat and drink” at home (1 Corinthians 11:22)
Interesting point. However, the issue then and the issue today are different. I don’t think that you can argue strict abstinence from the passages of Scripture or deny that Christians in Bible times actually drank fermented beverages. However, I think you can argue from the Scripture based on the nature of fermented beverages we have today. The substance and the culture is vastly different and there are sufficient Scriptural reasons for prohibition of today’s beverage/culture that we don’t need an explicit Scriptural prohibition to make the argument.
Actually, apart from distilled liquors—whiskey, brandy, vodka, fortified wines— the beverages we have today, and the processes used to make them, would be recognizable to Pharaoh and Jacob. Beer is limited in strength by the amount of maltose that can be coaxed from the barley (same stuff you use for a chocolate malt, BTW), and wine is limited in strength by the fact that yeast dies at about 20% alcohol. That hasn’t changed since Noah become the world’s first vintner.
And the culture? Same as it ever was, really. I looked up the U.S. data back to 1850, and it’s about two gallons of pure ethanol per capita ever since then. 50% beer, 40% distilled spirits, 10% wine, more or less.
Aspiring to be a stick in the mud.
[Sean Fericks]Music, wine, dance, sex, food, wealth, and power are all celebrated in the Bible.
You may want to throw violence/war into that list, too.
Ashamed of Jesus! of that Friend On whom for heaven my hopes depend! It must not be! be this my shame, That I no more revere His name. -Joseph Grigg (1720-1768)
[GregH]I just don’t get it. Everyone knows that the church has historically not a problem with drinking in moderation. Israel clearly drank in moderation. We all know that prohibition is a very new thing in history. A completely abstinent position is just a blip on the radar of history. Are the total abstinence people saying that it took the church this long to get it right? Thank goodness for America in the 1800s because we finally figured out what God really meant about alcohol.
FWIW, I have no problems at all with a total abstinence position out of preference or conviction. I think it is wise in probably many cases. I am a non-drinker myself. But a mandate for all Christianity? That is just indefensible.
But, there’s an awful lot of caution in the Bible about alcoholic beverages. So it isn’t prohibited, but it is very strongly cautioned, more so than Music, Dance, Sex, and Food. Could it be that all of those cautions are there to warn of something dangerous enough that one would be foolish not to abstain when we live in a time that the preservative nature is irrelevant?
Ashamed of Jesus! of that Friend On whom for heaven my hopes depend! It must not be! be this my shame, That I no more revere His name. -Joseph Grigg (1720-1768)
A blessing from God that is so dangerous that we should not partake of that blessing from God?
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