Internet: the Great Leveler?
I was out of my usual haunts recently to speak at a young adults’ fellowship in what we call around here “The Cities.” Some of the conversation there had to do with SharperIron and, afterward, discussion with a few lingerers went to a familiar point. One young man observed that the trouble with Internet discussions goes beyond questions of the use of technology. The medium itself is a problem. It is inherently hostile to leadership because it erases distinctions and puts everyone on the same level.
A result, he said, is that “bad conversation crowds out good conversation.” A related thought from someone in the group was that so much of the dynamic of persuasive speaking and writing relates to who is saying it and not simply what is being said, and the Internet forum medium tends to neutralize the who factor.
These are thoughtful critiques of the medium and worthy of prolonged attention. I want to make a small down payment here toward that prolonged attention.
The question
The big question seems to be this: Is the easy-access discussion technology of the Internet (more precisely, the World Wide Web) inherently prone to an unhelpful or wrongful leveling effect?
I’m aware that many quickly react to that question in the negative. “Of course it doesn’t! Only elitists think that giving everyone even footing in a discussion is a bad thing.” But I’m sympathetic to views of the alleged elitists. It’s not immediately obvious to me that it’s a good idea to take a random sampling of a population, put them in an auditorium, give them all microphones and announce that the goal of the session is, say, to develop a good policy for peace in the Middle East. If the group consists of a hundred people, there might be two or three at most who could be expected to have the knowledge of history, politics, government and foreign policy to supply high quality ideas. (If peace in the Middle East doesn’t work for you, try brain surgery or rocket science.)
And if the question concerns theology (whether practical theology or the “impractical” kind), is the matter less important or less complex than peace in the Middle East? It is certainly not less weighty. And at least some questions in theology are as complex as the practical and sociopolitical complexities of the Middle East.
So we might as well face it: I’m probably an elitist. I’m fully persuaded that not all people are equally entitled to have opinions on every subject or equally likely to have thoughtful opinions that can be helpful to others.
In any conversation about football defensive strategies, Chinese calligraphy or quantum entanglement, I hope I’d have the sense to keep my mouth shut—or just ask questions and listen. I’m clearly unqualified to hold opinions about any of those things. And in a conversation where people just as ignorant presume to opine, I’d be on the side of those saying, “Shut up and let the smart people talk!”
Still, I hope all of you populists and semi-egalitarians (a large majority, I’m pretty sure) will keep reading. You’ll be in a better position to combat elitism if you better understand how we elitists see the problem.
Questions beneath the question
To return to the big question, is the easy-access, open-discussion technology of the Internet inherently prone to an unhelpful, or even wrongful, leveling effect? To answer that question, we have to consider some others. What exactly is being leveled, in what way is it being leveled and what are the real results? To put it another way, whose views are being improperly lifted and whose are being improperly lowered? And is this leveling improper because of the kind of leveling that is happening, or because of the way it’s happening, or because of the results of its happening—or some combination of the above?
What is being leveled?
If you put three theology PhDs and twenty eighth-graders in a Web forum and have them discuss some sensitive question, like whether eighth-graders are still children who must honor and obey their parents, the results are pretty predictable. The twenty eighth-graders are absolutely going to dominate. The PhDs will have trouble keeping up; they’ll be out-posted something like ten posts to one! And if the participants are actually interacting, the conversation will tend to focus on who is disrespecting whom, who is being rude and who is being arrogant, rather than on the matter of honoring and obeying parents. (In defense of the eighth-graders I know, several of them would be shouting at the rest to shut up and listen to the PhDs. But that doesn’t really detract from my point.)
The scenario probably turns out a bit better if everyone knows who the PhDs are and all the eighth-graders post using their real names. But the gravitation in the situation is still the same: the pull is toward bad conversation. Bad conversation tends to crowd out good conversation, and most of the participants in this example would not be capable of (or willing to produce) good conversation on the topic.
This gravitation toward fruitless talk happens because, to use the auditorium analogy, everyone’s got a microphone and there is no platform. Everyone has equal opportunity to communicate, and the sheer number of uninformed people tends to determine the course of the conversation. What is leveled, then, is control of the conversation.
But more than that is leveled. In this scenario, Sam the eighth-grader can tell the three PhDs that they don’t have a clue what they’re talking about. And, in my experience, PhDs don’t generally like being talked to that way. (Hey, they’ve spent more hours learning and thinking than the average eighth-grader has spent eating, texting and video gaming combined—and that’s saying something!) Two out of three PhDs would probably contribute to the decay of the conversation by scolding Sam the eighth-grader, rather than disproving his assertions or patiently helping him understand why an attitude of deference would be more wise and good. (I appreciate the PhDs, but let’s be realistic. They’re human, and sometimes they’re touchy about their knowledge because they’ve devoted their lives and fortunes to acquiring it. Even if the eighth-grader has a point, it just doesn’t seem fair!)
So in addition to leveling control of the conversation, the open forum also tends to level the ethos of the participants. It tends to reduce the authority of experts to declare something to be true and expect others to defer to their expertise. To a lesser degree, the environment also tends to reduce the authority of a person of character and wisdom to express sound judgment and expect others to honor it. This second side of the ethos coin is far more serious, but, for reasons I hope to make clear eventually—it is also less inherently threatened by the open forum medium.
How, and with what result?
If the medium of the open Internet forum tends to result in this kind of leveling, should we move away from it as “bad technology”? I believe that conclusion is premature. We have not yet considered the mechanics of how this leveling occurs or what the results are over time. Nor have we considered what is not leveled by this medium or how its strengths and weaknesses compare to other mediums such as spoken conversation and old fashioned ink-and-paper publication. Doing so may well reveal mitigating factors or optional features of the medium that can be altered to maximize its strengths and minimize its weaknesses.
I’m open to the idea that there can be such things as “bad technologies.” I’m not yet persuaded that the Internet forum is one of them.
Aaron Blumer Bio
Aaron Blumer, SharperIron’s second publisher, is a Michigan native and graduate of Bob Jones University (Greenville, SC) and Central Baptist Theological Seminary (Plymouth, MN). He and his family live in a small town in western Wisconsin, not far from where he pastored Grace Baptist Church for thirteen years. He is employed in customer service for UnitedHealth Group and teaches high school rhetoric (and sometimes logic and government) at Baldwin Christian School.
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and then you wrote, “But the ability of the education elite to keep knowledge locked up and accessible only to those of their class is quickly decreasing, and for those who have the willpower to dig in, they will be able to learn as much and work as well as PhDs, so in the future it may be necessary to have other ways to evaluate one’s fitness to serve in a particular capacity.”
Those seem contradictory to me. “Already educated” and then “able to learn as much and work as well as PhDs.”
Could you clarify please?
BTW - I like what you had to say about on-line education providing access to professors. Research is indicating that on-line education provides more opportunity to interact with professors than what traditional methods offer.
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You compared theology PhDs with eighth graders. And you point makes some sense in that case.
But, let me offer another scenario. Lets compare an educated man who has a bachelors degree from Wheaton and an MDiv from Fuller Theological Seminary,
with a cattle rancher, dirt farmer from Oklahoma.
Using your criteria, which is entirely based on the ownership of a piece of paper that acknowledges the holder went to a certain college and fulfilled the required course work, the first guy would clearly be superior in learning to the second, right?
And thats the problem with your entire scenario.
Because you assert that education is superior to being uneducated , that a learned man is one who has attained a certificate of education, and someone without that paper is unlearned. Or let me rephrase that. You assert that some education is superior to no education. Is that fair?
Problem is, that unless there is a standard of objective truth, how much or how little education a man posses is irrelevant.
Here is the first guy in my illustration. From Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_bell] Rob Bell
Clearly he’s an educated man. But, his understanding of objective truth is (in my opinion) non-existent. He is a highly educated charlatan, a wolf in sheep’s clothing. But, because he has a piece of paper, he is respected in some circles as an educated man.
The other fellow, the rancher, also from Wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Feldick] Les Feldick
Now, funny thing. Les is also a Bible teacher. I hear his radio program on Sunday mornings while I’m doing my chores. And Aaron, this man knows the Word of God like the back of his hand. He has a good systematic theology. Not perfect, but good. He knows Scripture well enough teach it, and to make it understandable.
And note this from his bio,
Without formal Bible scholar training, Feldick asserts that the Holy Spirit has been the sole inspiration that has enabled him to teach the Scriptures in the manner that he does.Now this in not a Les Feldick promotional or something. However my point is this, you have two men, both teach what they claim to be Biblical truth. One is highly educated. One has been formally educated. One is also a heretic. One is uneducated, yet he is not a heretic, nor is he unlearned.
What then is the standard by which you determine whether these men teach the truth? I submit it had better not be based on their level of education, because the highly educated one is wrong. Education may be a useful thing. But, you need to have a higher standard than just level of education, in determining whether someone has something useful to say about the Word of God.
Just for the record. Here is a link to Les Feldick’s Web page, read his doctrinal statement, is it closer to yours or Rob Bell’s?
http://lesfeldick.org/ Les Feldick
drwayman, some amazing data there, but I have to confess that your description of how much data is going onto the web hour by hour is probably going to give me nightmares.
I don’t really know why, but the idea of that much info being pumped aimlessly into a giant, ever expanding shapeless mass… haunting.
I’m old school I guess… and getting older school every day. I’m teaching logic and rhetoric now so I’m conscientiously skipping a bunch of centuries and asking long dead Greeks and Romans how to “think good and talk good.” I’m happy to do that, because I tend to think all the most important knowledge was figured out a long time ago. All we’ve had ever since is technical stuff (and anti-knowledge).
I like tech, but it’s just tech. It’s souless.
So we have a situation where knowledge (or at least data) is expanding at an unbelievable rate but virtue is, at best, staying the same (probably declining). No amount of knowledge can give anybody a good end to which to put it, or make any care whether their use is good or evil.
farmer Tom N… I don’t think you’re getting my point at all.
My point is that real differences in knowledge—as well as character—exist. The PhD vs. 8th grader thing is just an obvious example (of the knowledge part, not so much the character part).
As for the piece of paper/sheepskin etc. you seem to so passionately resent, most of the guys who have one of those pieces of paper actually did something to get it. What they did to get it is the real measure of its value… much as entrepreneurs often frame their first dollar earned—also just a piece of paper.
But as I said before, nobody believes the academic credential is an absolute indicator of either intelligence or even knowledge. It just tends to correlate.
But regardless of credentials, even in a large crowd of eighth graders, some are smarter and better human beings than others.
Edit: shameless plug… part 2 posts tomorrow. Occurs to me now that the title I’m using is too broad because there is a whole social science phenomenon of global “leveling”—what “The World is Flat” is about. I’m just talking about leveling among participants in discussions… though in some ways it works as a microcosm of the bigger phenom.
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[drwayman]Interesting that you raise this thought. There are indeed trails being blazed in this sort of direction…
You made an interesting comment, “Training, experience, judgment, and clearly defined objectives are vital for success. The internet is similar.” I don’t know enough about this subject to know if I am speaking intelligently or not but your comment spurred a thought. I wonder if the future academic degrees of influence will be those individuals who are trained in the use of the WWW. I’m not talking about IT jobs or internet project management but those who are trained how to influence our culture in meaningful ways with “defined objectives” I would think that these academicians would know how to ingest, organize, and disseminate the plethora of information found on the WWW. The question is, “who is going to teach others how to do it?” It seems that there needs to be an educational innovator who will blaze the trail.
I have just recently begun educating myself in two new fields where the trailblazes are still actively building up the core body of work: Information Architecture and Content Strategy. These appear to have only just surfaced and gained attention, in response to some of the points you raise.
In a nutshell, IA, as a discipline in its own right, involves determining the form information might take in terms of taxonomy, structure, rules, typography and visual design; and access to it in terms of usability, search, key words, appearance and its outlets. CS involves governance in terms of authorship, ownership, editing and responsibility; access in terms of usage rights; workflow, purpose and audience; and value of the content in terms of relevance and accuracy; what content is already there, what needs creating or merely repurposing or adapting, etc.
Companies, organizations and institutions are no small contributors to the boom in content generated around the wrold. More and more frequently these entities are realizing they must get a handle on their own growing bodies of content that are getting out of hand. It’s not enough to tack a bit of effort onto marketing; these displines have to run vertically through a whole organizational structure.
I aim to learn as much as possible in these two complementary fields (although it seems they are considered different disciplines, or two sides of the coin, and people seem to pursue one or the other). So far, I have started following a few pioneers on Twitter, subscribed to a few Podcasts, added a few RSS feeds to my reader, and placed a number of books on my Amazon Wishlist; maybe I’ll be able to join a professional body or two if possible. These two fields really excite me, and I hope one day to be able to contribute to them — or at least learn enough to enhance my current work in the areas of website creation, content management, digital communications and online services.
[drwayman] Those seem contradictory to me. “Already educated” and then “able to learn as much and work as well as PhDs.”Well, my post did tend to wander a little, but you also didn’t include the section at the end of my last paragraph.
Could you clarify please?
I think the more one is educated (and I’m not meaning only in the classical sense), the more one has the ability to use information presented to them. Those kids you refer to that started so quickly already had an education and no outlet in which to use it originally, so they were able to jump in quickly when they had the opportunity.
For those who are not educated in the traditional sense, access to all the information on the internet may do them no immediate good in regards to some of it. For example, I am educated, but not in nuclear physics, so if I found advanced material in nuclear physics, I might eventually be able to use it without the benefit of a classroom education, but not at first. (It probably would help that I do have math degree, though I don’t hold an advanced degree in that either.) I would have to take advantage of other available information to get myself to a point where I could understand and use the advanced material.
I think that education IS necessary, but that it is changing, and the opportunities to “self-teach” these days are increasing very quickly. I’m all for someone that would not normally have access to some information eventually being able to use it well, having expended enough effort. However, I don’t think that just being able to access all of it easily will mean that all of it can easily be used properly or wisely. Education is still worth something, even if it isn’t exactly what we today recognize as a formal education.
“Able to learn” is great. It’s not the same as already knowing it. Taking two people with equal intelligence, drive, etc., the one who already knows some things the other doesn’t will already be ahead, and will probably stay there for some time.
Dave Barnhart
Of note the Information Architecture Institute broadly defines “information architecture” as:
- The structural design of shared information environments.
- The art and science of organizing and labeling web sites, intranets, online communities and software to support usability and fundability.
- An emerging community of practice focused on bringing principles of design and architecture to the digital landscape
Out of this definition, the second part appeals to me the most. I suspect that software that supports usability is the wave of the future, but time will tell :-)
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