A North Carolina Pastor calls for gays and lesbians to be fenced in so they can eventually die off
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Sullies the name “Baptist” (of course not the first time!)
This is completely contrary to Matthew 5:43-48. Jim’s comment about it being ‘repugnant’ isn’t strong enough.
"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells
Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?
[Alex Guggenheim] It is tempting to posture on this but at least he understands it is a perversion and an abomination. To me equally outrageous are soft-peddlings by alleged Evangelicals about homosexuality while downolaying or ignoring the extra-ordinary immoral and perverse nature of homosexuality. This guy might claim his view from Leviticus, you know the same source many Evangelicals want to selectively use in determining a Christian doctrine on illegal-immigration. Maybe he was just following their hermeneutic example.Alex,
Are you serious? - “at least he understands it a perversion…..” So in that “at least” there is salvation for incredible stupidity (to say that publicly on video even if you do believe it) and hateful, toxic speech. Are the supposed “soft-peddlings by alleged evangelicals” equally outrageous? I fail how to understand how you could even use the word “posture.” Every child of God should be nauseated by what was said by the Baptist pastor. I am and do not soft peddle my opposition to homosexuality. Thankfully he doesn’t represent any Baptists or any Christians that I know. The man’s a disgrace to the ministry, to the Word of Christ, and has betrayed the mission of the cross. He should repent and resign. If I was an independent Baptist I would be really be embarassed and would encourage IBC churches to mark and avoid this man.
Steve Davis
I understand that his idea is to be rejected for various reasons with regard to Christian doctrine but yes, this is too easily reacted to with posturing demonstrations of outrage when it pales in comparison to the pronouncements of moral acceptability or moral ambivilence toward homosexuality by alleged Evangelicals.
My eyes roled and I chuckled when I read this understanding how crusades of pitchforkers would show up ready to chew him up and spit him out with self- satisfying disgust .
Maybe he is frustrated with the continued normalization of this perversion and overeached but I am not grossly offended. I have heard far more damning utterances from pulpits of rather well known and largely received Teachers.
I am happy to disagree with you on this.
[Alex Guggenheim] My eyes roled and I chuckled when I read this understanding how crusades of pitchforkers would show up ready to chew him up and spit him out with self- satisfying disgust.I’m in the 3rd row … 2nd from the left
[Alex Guggenheim] Oh I thought you were in the front second on the left.That’s Chip!
Jay’s behind him!
:)
Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?
[Chip Van Emmerik] That’s not me - I’ve got a torch!Please tell me that was a pun :) heh.
[Alex Guggenheim] SteveAlex:
I understand that his idea is to be rejected for various reasons with regard to Christian doctrine but yes, this is too easily reacted to with posturing demonstrations of outrage when it pales in comparison to the pronouncements of moral acceptability or moral ambivilence toward homosexuality by alleged Evangelicals.
My eyes roled and I chuckled when I read this understanding how crusades of pitchforkers would show up ready to chew him up and spit him out with self- satisfying disgust .
Maybe he is frustrated with the continued normalization of this perversion and overeached but I am not grossly offended. I have heard far more damning utterances from pulpits of rather well known and largely received Teachers.
I am happy to disagree with you on this.
I’m sorry you disagree with me on this but I’m very happy I do not have your warped perspective which seeks comparisons that are irrelevant. I’m also happy that few Christians would share your opinion. Did you watch the video?
I usually have one or two inmate homosexuals on my caseload at the prison. I disagree strongly with their lifestyle and they know it. I also believe they can be redeemed and transformed by the power of the gospel. I would be ashamed to have them read the news story about the Baptist pastor and in any way identify his words with Christianity. It wasn’t Christian. There’s also forgiveness for him.
Steve Davis
[Jim Peet][Alex Guggenheim] Oh I thought you were in the front second on the left.That’s Chip!
Jay’s behind him!
:)
No, I had a pitchfork. ;)
"Our task today is to tell people — who no longer know what sin is...no longer see themselves as sinners, and no longer have room for these categories — that Christ died for sins of which they do not think they’re guilty." - David Wells
[jimcarwest] I know we are all upset by this foolish statement made from the pulpit, but cool off a little, guys. If this was said among preachers in a private setting, it would not cause half the stir that some of the brethren are making.If this were said to me in a private conversation, I would inform the speaker that he had lost a substantial amount of my respect. If there were more than a few people in the conversation, I would probably submit an official complaint to the presbytery and seek an ecclesiastical censure.
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