Quoting Quotes with Quotes in Them

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Matthew Olmstead
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I'm wondering if there's the ability to limit the level of quotations that are automatically inserted into a new post when the "quote" button is clicked. In other words, when I quote somebody who has quoted someone else, I only want their quote in my post, not the person they quoted too. (and I've seen it go deeper than that: quoting a person who has quoted another person who has quoted yet a third person. so, I end up with four levels of quotation in my post.)

Am I making any sense? Tongue

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Matthew wrote:

...limit the level of quotations

You could edit the post to only include the text you want to quote. Maybe that is not what you are asking though?

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JohnBrian wrote: Matthew
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Matthew wrote:

...limit the level of quotations

You could edit the post to only include the text you want to quote. Maybe that is not what you are asking though?

That much I understand. Wink
My suggestion (or request) is to increase efficiency and usability by limiting what the "quote" button includes in the quote.

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Matthew Olmstead wrote:
JohnBrian wrote:
Matthew wrote:

...limit the level of quotations

You could edit the post to only include the text you want to quote. Maybe that is not what you are asking though?

That much I understand. Wink
My suggestion (or request) is to increase efficiency and usability by limiting what the "quote" button includes in the quote.

Here's an example: all I did was hit "quote" on the previous message and I get this (above) when I rather want this as a quote (below):

Matthew Olmstead wrote:

That much I understand. Wink
My suggestion (or request) is to increase efficiency and usability by limiting what the "quote" button includes in the quote.

I understand I can edit out what I don't want to quote, but it would be much easier if it would do it automatically. I don't know if it's possible; I'm just bringing it up in case it is.

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Matt, I haven't worked with the Coding/Admin side of SI, but as someone who works with databases, I'd be VERY surprised if there was a way to limit the inline quoting in the way that you described. Maybe there's an add on that fixes this, but I think that any software that is used for forums probably grabs the entire quote from the first instance of [ quote ].

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Jay C wrote: Matt, I haven't
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Matt, I haven't worked with the Coding/Admin side of SI, but as someone who works with databases, I'd be VERY surprised if there was a way to limit the inline quoting in the way that you described. Maybe there's an add on that fixes this, but I think that any software that is used for forums probably grabs the entire quote from the first instance of [ quote ].

Well, the old SI (2.Innocent did it.

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Matthew Olmstead wrote: Jay
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Jay C wrote:

Matt, I haven't worked with the Coding/Admin side of SI, but as someone who works with databases, I'd be VERY surprised if there was a way to limit the inline quoting in the way that you described. Maybe there's an add on that fixes this, but I think that any software that is used for forums probably grabs the entire quote from the first instance of [ quote ].

Well, the old SI (2.Innocent did it.

oops. forgot to disable smileys (err...can't disable smileys). that should read 2 . 0

That's another thing: there's no way to disable smileys

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Matthew Olmstead wrote: Jay
Matthew Olmstead wrote:
Jay C wrote:

Matt, I haven't worked with the Coding/Admin side of SI, but as someone who works with databases, I'd be VERY surprised if there was a way to limit the inline quoting in the way that you described. Maybe there's an add on that fixes this, but I think that any software that is used for forums probably grabs the entire quote from the first instance of [ quote ].

Well, the old SI (2.0 ) did it.

Did it? I didn't remember it doing so, but maybe I'm mistaken. I seem to recall spending a lot of time fixing quoted posts prior to hitting the reply button, but maybe that's just me.

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preserving context
Matthew Olmstead wrote:

Well, the old SI (2.0 ) did it.

the previous quoting scheme was always frustrating for me. i would much rather quickly delete what i don't want than manually rebuild nested quotes to preserve some context.

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Yay auto-nesting! ;-)

I was excited to see automatic nested quoting enabled on the new site. Deleting is MUCH easier than building. Wink

As for disabling smilies, I wonder...

:)

Yep. the [notag][/notag] BBCode tags will allow you to disable the automatic conversion to graphic smilies, but you have to type the tags manually around the text/symbols/tags you want left unconverted. And for your case that was (I'm assuming) accidental, the notag won't help unless you go back and edit it in after you notice the weirdness. Laughing out loud

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Matthew's right... about 2.0

2.0 did limit nested quoting. Not sure how that worked, but vBulletin would not allow quotes in quotes at all. So, Jay, what you probably remember is rebuilding quotes in quotes, as Angela mentioned.
There are pro's and con's to both approaches. Personally, I like nesting, but it does get messy after a quote of a quote of a quote, etc.
Currently, the folks who built the Quote Module for Drupal don't have a solution for that, but it should be--theoretically--possible to add that feature in the future... and limit quote nesting to, say, two layers. That might be best of both worlds.

Actually, the dream setup would be to allow users to set their own default quote nesting depth! I'll go see if anybody's awake at drupal.org/project/quote and put in a feature request. (.... ok done)

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Found this:

Found this: http://drupal.org/node/279007, but the status is "won't fix" so it may not work.

Note to SI people: I searched 'quote'. If people like it the way it is, fine. I just brought it up because it was different than 2.0

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Matthew Olmstead wrote: Found
Matthew Olmstead wrote:

Found this: http://drupal.org/node/279007, but the status is "won't fix" so it may not work.

That one's on ver. 5 and we're using ver.6. I put in a "feature request" so hopefully they'll look at it even though they marked it "won't fix" for ver. 5.