The basic problem is that the new BJU sexual abuse policy as outlined in their current faculty handbook instructs faculty/staff to violate state law by reporting suspicions of child sexual abuse to University supervisors and administrators instead of directly to appropriate law enforcement. State law is that care givers and teachers are required to report directly to law enforcement. The issue of adding a University head as a middle man between care giver/teacher and law enforcement may not seem like a big deal, but if you examine the issues legally, it is a MONUMENTAL one.
All employees who learn of sexual abuse being committed are to report it immediately to their supervisor, department head or the director of Human Resources. If the victim is an adult, the abuse will be reported by this designee to the local or state Adult Protective Services (APS) Agency. If a child is the victim, the designee will report it to the local or state Child Abuse Agency. Appropriate family members of the victim are to be notified immediately of suspected child abuse. We take allegations of sexual abuse seriously. Once the allegation is reported, we will promptly, thoroughly and impartially initiate an investigation to determine whether there is a reasonable basis to believe that sexual abuse has been committed. Our investigation may be undertaken by an internal team, or we may hire an independent third party. We will cooperate fully with any investigation conducted by law enforcement or regulatory agencies, and we refer the complaint and the result of our investigation to those agencies. We reserve the right to place the subject of the investigation on an involuntary leave of absence or to reassign that person to responsibilities that do not involve personal contact with individuals or students. To the fullest extent possible, but consistent with our legal obligation to report suspected abuse to appropriate authorities, we will endeavor to keep the identities of the alleged victims and investigation subject confidential. If the investigation substantiates the allegation, our policy provides for disciplinary penalties, including but not limited to termination of the actor’s relationship with BJU.There are other issues of bad practice (relying on internal investigations and so forth), but I think the secondary issues handle themselves if the University corrects the primary issue of mandatory reporting. Mandatory reporting means care givers reporting to law enforcement, NOT University personnel.
You can read the faculty/staff handbook for yourself http://chucklestravels.wordpress.com/2011/09/22/bob-jones-universitys-w… here .
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For adults, I would think the State law is referring to nursing home or other situations where the adult victim is under the care of a care giver. I don’t think the state is thinking about an otherwise mentally competent college student of legal age.
For minors, what does the appropriate state law require? Its requirements trump any university policy.
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NewThe faculty/staff handbook is
NewHere's the SC state
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Jay, BJU’s policy goes like this.
1st person suspects child abuse of someone under their care. 1st person must report it to 2nd person who is their supervisor. 2nd person/supervisor will then report it to law enforcement.
HOWEVER, state statute is very clear that 1st person must report it directly to law enforcement. The BJU policy requires an extra step involving an extra person in violation of the state mandate.
NewStatute
Let’s see the statute.Edit: overlooked that above. Do we have a link to a SC source?What’s obvious to me:
- A supervisor/HR dept. absolutely has to know about the matter ASAP
- An internal investigation is standard procedure in most organizations—even police departments. (The case may be obvious, and it’s poor stewardship of resources to go outside when guilt is obvious after an internal conversation or two.)
- If the law requires direct reporting by the party who first becomes aware, the best policy would be simply to modify a couple of sentences so that the first party reports to authorities then immediately reports to the sup./HR, then steps out of the loop as matters run their course.
On the whole it looks like a solid policy and I’m encouraged to see it.
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NewAaron Blumer wrote: Let's see
As for internal investigations, sexual abuse is a CRIMINAL issue. BJU has no business investigating a criminal issue, especially one as sensitive as sexual abuse. That would require interviewing the alleged victim, and state law protects the victim from being interrogated by unqualified personnel.
Yes, the BEST policy would be simply to modify a couple of sentences. That would be SO easy. But so far, BJU is standing firm that the policy is correct and good for all involved.
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Thanks for the clarification, but I still fail to see the problem here. You’re assuming that BJU will run an investigation before notifying the police or whomever. It is SOP for most institutions (including non-Christian businesses) to inform the police and run their internal investigation concurrently, with both sides working together to ensure that all facts come out. I’ve seen that with financial embezzlement cases, including one that resulted in prison time for the embezzler.
Furthermore, no well run institution wants people who don’t know what they are doing jeopardizing lives or reputations/testimonies by doing something that could hinder criminal investigation or prosecution further down the road. Would you want some reference librarian from the BJU calling you to say that your seventeen year old daughter may have been molested by a guy in your church? Of course not - because they aren’t going to have the right answers for you about the details and about what you should do next. At worst, they might be ‘reporting’ it because they think it’s a good way to get even with the school for something else when there was no such incident. So this is perfectly legitimate and reasonable.
BTW, what did BJU say to you when you contacted them (as per your original post), and who did you talk with? And who are the ‘others’ that you were referring to as having confronted BJU?
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I was asking if there is a link to the original handbook at the BJU site so that the entire handbook can be read and the information verified at the source.
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Here is what is factually relevant. BJU’s written policy (yes, Susan, that really is their handbook for this year) contradicts SC state statute on who is a mandatory reporter of child abuse. With a simple change of wording, they could fix this. Take the supervisor out of the wording and enforce a policy that has no middle man between mandatory reporter and law enforcement, and you have a good policy (if you remove the internal investigation part as well).
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If you want to make everyone at BJU responsible for legally reporting abuse, then you need to change the law, not the school policy.
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NewJay C. wrote: Dan, there are
NewQuote:As for internal
(If we’ve gotten to the point that we have laws saying organizations cannot investigate the truthfulness of accusations among their own employees, we’ve got some seriously oppressive legislation that needs to be rolled back.)
I don’t see what the fuss is about. If the policy is not authentic whoever faked it doesn’t have much imagination… it’s a very ordinary looking policy I’d expect to find just about anywhere.
If it’s genuine then the question is whether it’s being understood correctly and the law is being understood correctly and something needs fixing.
If it needs fixing, they can fix it.
It is hard to believe univ legal counsel would have missed it. It’s quite likely that there is case law clarifying who is mandatory reporter at a univ. and what constitutes reporting and all that. And the univ’s legal counsel would be well informed on all that stuff.
That’s what the lawyers are for.
It doesn’t matter much what any of us think of the legality of something.
But the ethics of the policy: I don’t see a problem there. If the policy is followed everything gets handled rather well. If it doesn’t get followed, that’s hardly the fault of the policy, is it?
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1). The BJU policy does not forbid teachers to obey the law. It sets an extra requirement for them to follow also. For example, if I taught there and became aware of one of these issues, I would be required by SC law to report to the state, and by BJU policy to report to them. I see no conflict. The only weakness of the policy is that the teachers are not informed by BJU that they are mandatory reporters under SC law in this policy. But I’ll bet they know this. They may be informed of it in some teacher “orientation”, for all we know. I’m not sure there’s a problem here.
As a foster/adoptive parent, we used to see this kind of chain all the time. We would report abuse, but also tell the counsellor, who also reported it. We told the case worker, who also reported it. Under Michigan law at least, everybody in the chain reports.
2). I think BJU has to run an investigation to determine if grounds for dismissal are present. That is clearly independent of the criminal matter. It should not supercede the criminal matter. It should not be allowed to interfere with the criminal matter. But the criteria for working at a Christian institution need not be “never convicted of a crime”. If an employee violated policies in such a way that they created the impression of wrong-doing, the institution may wish to dismiss them.
NewI seen it fer myself
It seems clear to me that incidents are to be reported to a designated staff member as well as law enforcement. It is a case of ‘in addition to’ and not ‘instead of’. I think the wording could be clearer, but it is not as problematic as is being reported. All organizations will conduct an internal investigation when criminal activity of any kind has taken place. No company I’ve ever worked for would sit back and do nothing while law enforcement investigated alleged illegal acts. I’ve viewed many such policies, and this is pretty standard for a college.
I think it would behoove all churches, schools, and colleges to have policies that make their standards and responses regarding such issues crystal clear.
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As to your second point, that it is clear that incidents are to be reported to a designated staff member as well as law enforcement — the law is clear on WHO has to report to law enforcement, and it is the 1st person who is suspicious who falls under the mandatory reporting law. The BJU policy clearly says that their (BJU’s) designee will do the reporting, and this is the crux of the problem.
Consider the following sample sexual abuse policy recommended by insurance agencies.I can provide a PDF of the entire guidelines, but I just wanted to use it as an example of what is an appropriately worded policy.
In contrast, BJU’s policy says this.There is no way around the fact that BJU’s policy as written instructs BJU/BJA faculty/staff to not follow mandatory reporting statutes.
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NewNo, Jay. No. No. No. There
There is a reason based on case law for why certain professions are required to be a first person reporter, ESPECIALLY in institutional settings. The Duke Lacrosse example is irrelevant to the entire point I’ve emphasized because it wasn’t between an authority and a child. Rape has a different definition than sexual abuse. BJU’s own sexual abuse policy is obviously not for a situation like the Duke case. Here is how BJU defines sexual abuse.
NewStandards
I still do not see anything nefarious about this handbook. All CPS/DCS agencies screen reports to see if they comply with the standards of child abuse/neglect/molestation, so it is clear that even the CWS does not act on every report. It would not be weird to me to report suspicions to a designated person who is cognizant of these requirements, and makes sure that all required information is available at the time of the report.Also, in the Standards of Reporting section of the handbook from CWS, it states:Note the term ‘reasonable cause’. This is not “I saw Dr. Snodgrass in a room alone with Suzy.” But if you report Dr. Snodgrass to a supervisor, he may well be subject to action by his employer, while not fitting the state description of a molester. KWIM? Also note that the mandatory reporter ‘decides’ whether or not to make a report, based on these guidelines.
The designee can discern if the report meets the definition of child abuse/molestation:Again- an accusation of abuse/molestation might not meet this criteria, but reporting an incident to the employer that results in an internal investigation would be a good thing. Neglecting to report to the employer may result in no action being taken at all if the state does not believe the report meets the standards of abuse/molestation.
A couple of friends of mine with kids in a traditional school have complained to me about how their children’s teachers use humiliation and threats (such as “If you don’t shut up I’m going to take you out back and beat the crap out of you”) to get the kids to comply. This is apparently not in violation of the law, but the school officials could investigate these teacher’s behaviors and appropriate punitive action might be taken… if I click my heels together three times and say the magic words… http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php] http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused002.gif
Too many people actually think that gov’t agencies are avenging angels. I’ve had to watch as a kid with handprints on his neck was returned to his home after we reported the abuse because the stepdad had a ‘reason’ for the marks. If someone is looking for a conspiracy of coverup of the neglect and abuse of children, look no further than your local CPS or DWS. I certainly don’t have to go all the way to SC to find it.
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NewDan-speak is very '1984' like
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NewQuote:There is no way around
NewCiting the particular verbiage for the provision under dispute
I can see how the law would hold someone liable for not ensuring that the designated party did, in fact, forward the information to authorities. But that’s different.
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NewLarry wrote: Dan, I am
Are you trying to say that this is a good policy even though it does not instruct the employee to follow the law but sets up for them a chain of actions that does not include the legal requirement? If the employee in question follows the letter of the BJU policy, then they will be violating the letter of the SC legal code.
As I said early on, this didn’t have to be controversial. It could have been an easy fix. Even Aaron has pointed that out. What I can’t understand is why people would dig their heels in on this issue when state law is so clear?
NewSusan R wrote: Dan Frank
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You can find the entire SC state code at www.scstatehouse.gov. I am researching a definition of mandatory reporting. So far, I’ve found the definitions of the required reporting methods for abuse of adults.I will sum it up that the person who is a required mandatory person must report 1) within 24 hours and 2) to one of several specified government agencies. Reporting simply to a supervisor in, say, a nursing home facility will get you in deep trouble. I haven’t yet found the corresponding legal code for child abuse, but I anticipate the wording to be parallel. However, I think no one will believe me unless I find the actual code, so I’ll continue to look.
NewInsurance policy
Until you can cite specific legal verbiage that prohibits reporting through a designated party, or specific case law that has interpreted the statute to mean as much, then I suggest the word “illegal” is grossly unwaranted. The statute as I have read it leaves ample room for reporting-through-designated-party. I believe the burden of proof is yours now, and you should probably refrain from commenting until you bring it.
Edit: Well…looking at other sections you cited above, here’s something that may have more bearing on the personal/corporate issue, 43-35-25 (C):
“(C) A person required to report pursuant to this section is personally responsible for making the report; however, a state agency may make a report on behalf of an agency employee if the procedure the agency uses for reporting has been approved in writing by the Vulnerable Adults Investigations Unit of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division or the investigative entity to which the report is to be made.”
But then, on the other hand, from 43-35-30…
“A person required to report under this chapter as a member of the staff of a medical facility, public or private institution, school, facility, or agency immediately shall notify the person in charge or the designated agent of the person in charge who shall take or cause to be taken color photographs of visible trauma.” (emphasis added)
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Philadelphia, PA
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NewFinally found
NewSeems like a no-brainer
The Law - certain individuals must report suspected abuse to the authorities immediately. Whatever they do within their organizational structure after that is up to them.
BJ says - all employees will report sexual abuse to a supervisor who will then report to the state.
The wording and apparent intent are in violation of the state law.
1. Specified reporters are being told to go to BJ instead of the authorities
2. An intermediary is doing the reporting to authorities rather than the person with the first hand knowledge (and legal responsibility)
Not sure what is unclear here.
Why is it that my voice always seems to be loudest when I am saying the dumbest things?
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NewI Agree
So the fix is: have the reporter go tot he office of the supervisor and make the report from there. The letter of both the law and the policy of BJU are met.
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NewI can tell you exactly! I
I worked hard to get my teacher license and National Boards. Besides it is THE LAW! I’m not going to do something that is against the law and I don’t want to lose my license!
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NewThanks Dan. First, let me
First, let me say that the state law is not under dispute. That is a red herring. The people at BJU who work in supervisory or teaching capacity over minors are required reporters to the state. It is very doubtful that reporting to a supervisor is a substitute for that, something which some state laws make clear. I don’t think SC makes that clear, but I am quite sure it is the case that reporting to a supervisor is not a substitute for reporting to law enforcement.
Now on to the substance of Dan’s response.But you didn’t answer my question: Where are the faculty instructed not to report something to the law enforcement?
Comparing to a policy you like better doesn’t answer this question. I think your complaint actually is that BJU doesn’t instruct it’s people to follow the law. That, however, is probably assumed. All people are expected to follow the law. In addition to that, they should also follow their employers policy regarding reporting.No, I am not saying it is a good policy. I don’t think it is. But you said it instructs faculty to not obey the law, and I am asking if it actually does that or not. Does this policy actually instruct faculty members to disregard the law?
The “chain of actions” appears to regard an employees responsibilities to the employer. It does not appear to address the employees responsibility to the civil authorities. IMO, the reason why this policy is weak is because it fails to make it explicit that this policy does not take the place or or preclude their other legal responsibilities. The policy could be easily changed, and should be.
By the way, the standard for reporting in every state I think (including SC) is “reasonable suspicion” or something similar. Allegations are not required to be reported; only reasonable suspicions are (whether or not they include an allegation, since you may have a reasonable suspicion without an allegation). Determining a “reasonable suspicion” requires some level of investigation, hence, the clause there will be an investigation (either internal or third party) by the university to determine if it is “reasonable.” That covers their end and explains what they will do with it. Those who claim that a person or institution should do no investigation do not understand the law that requires reasonable suspicion. The reasonable suspicion may be prima facie, it may be obtainable by one or two questions, or it may take longer. But until it is “reasonable suspicion” reporting is not required.
The employee has his own duty. If he thinks the suspicion is reasonable, then he must also report it.
So here, it appears that the standard for internal reporting is “learn of it.” The legal standard is not “learn of it” but “reasonable suspicion.”Which letter of this policy violates the letter of the SC legal code? Are you depending on letters that aren’t there because I don’t see it there, and when asked to provide it, you didn’t point to this policy but rather to another policy.I don’t think it is controversial, though I think you are trying to make it so. The state law is clear, and this policy does not appear to violate that state law. If it does, please point it out to me. Don’t point to a policy you like better. As I read this policy, nowhere in it is the employee instructed to violate state law by reporting it only to their supervisor or instructed to violate state law by not reporting it according to their legal duty.
I think it is a bad policy because it doesn’t make it clear that the employee also has other legal duties. But it does not appear, as it stands, to do what you claim it does which is to instruct employees to violate the law.
So I agree that this is a poorly written policy that needs clarification. I do not agree, as of now, that it instructs or encourages an employee not to report to legal authorities.
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SC teachers know full well their reporting requirements. Any putting the school before these requirements is done at the teacher’s legal peril. Nothing in the policy forbid reporting to the LEOs.
That’s on a negative note.
On a positive note, they have a policy. It isn’t worded as clearly as some would like it to be. That’s fixable. Any weaknesses are covered by my first paragraph. Some how, I don’t think BJ faculty and staff are that stupid.
Hoping to shed more light than heat..