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Comparing Fundy and Conservative Evangelical Pulpits

By FredK Sun, 06/05/2011 - 1:05pm
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Is it just me or are the CEs producing more top of the line, expository teachers? I'm in a IFB church yet I usually find the Lutzers, Swindolls, Stanleys, Jeremiahs more engaging, more stimulating. Here locally, the largest churches are CE with exceptionally good teaching.

Now with itinerant evangelists I see perhaps the opposite. We fundys have a goodly number of on fire, energetic, godly speakers both young and established. After hearing them you know you have been to church.

Are IFB schools turning out expositors as they might? I refer to deep, Dallas Theol. Seminary-type exposition (Lutzer, Swindoll went there I know).

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Have you

checked out Pastor David Innes on sermonaudio.com? Though because there is also a David Innes from Northern Ireland on sermonaudio, I suggest you check Pastor Innes out on Hamilton Square's web site: www.hamiltonsquare.net

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Certainly there has to be

Certainly there has to be some substance amongst all that hollering, shouting, spitting, slobbering, throwing down microphone stands, and generally throwing a temper tantrum!!!!

If you do not preach with a six-foot flame coming out your nostrils, you must be one of those pink lemonade sippin', lace on your britches, panty waist sissy liberal preachers!!!!

    
Mon, 06/06/2011 - 10:06am
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Had this thought once...

Seems they like many Fundy preachers are good at "Preaching Against" but never "Preach For" anything.
I've tried it, it's fun and easy to get up and go off. But lasting fruit comes from preaching the Word, and that requires study.

    
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Would most people consider

Would most people consider Swindoll a "deep expository preacher"? He is typically known for his communication ability and his story telling (both of which he is great at).

I think schools like Detroit, Central, and BJU are turning out expository preachers. They certainly turned out people like Minnick, Doran, and a number of others. They probably won't get the publicity of people like you mention, but that doesn't detract from their preaching, nor from the training they received.

    
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Larry wrote: Would most

Larry wrote:
Would most people consider Swindoll a "deep expository preacher"?
I hope not.

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Tue, 06/07/2011 - 9:12am
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dan wrote: Larry

dan wrote:
Larry wrote:
Would most people consider Swindoll a "deep expository preacher"?
I hope not.

I think the same can be said for Stanley.

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Chip Van Emmerik wrote: dan

Chip Van Emmerik wrote:
dan wrote:
Larry wrote:
Would most people consider Swindoll a "deep expository preacher"?
I hope not.

I think the same can be said for Stanley.

Yes, though I think there's still some value in Stanley's preaching.

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Ray, please clarify your comment

Ray S wrote:
Certainly there has to be some substance amongst all that hollering, shouting, spitting, slobbering, throwing down microphone stands, and generally throwing a temper tantrum!!!!

If you do not preach with a six-foot flame coming out your nostrils, you must be one of those pink lemonade sippin', lace on your britches, panty waist sissy liberal preachers!!!!

Brother Ray, I am not sure what your point is yet is there some heat in your words. Do I sense a unkind, critical spirit here? R U imparting grace? "speaking truth in love"? Venting? I want to give the benefit of the doubt brother. R U hitting on me or knocking shouting evangelists?

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Is Swindoll expostory?

dan wrote:
Larry wrote:
Would most people consider Swindoll a "deep expository preacher"?
I hope not.

If memory serves Swindoll did more expository messages 20 years ago. And yes his good stories can make a message memorable, IMO.

Right or wrong would the typical mind set of the F pulpit be different? IMO the CE generally have a more diversified offering of sermon topics.

    
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FredK wrote: Ray S

FredK wrote:
Ray S wrote:
Certainly there has to be some substance amongst all that hollering, shouting, spitting, slobbering, throwing down microphone stands, and generally throwing a temper tantrum!!!!

If you do not preach with a six-foot flame coming out your nostrils, you must be one of those pink lemonade sippin', lace on your britches, panty waist sissy liberal preachers!!!!

Brother Ray, I am not sure what your point is yet is there some heat in your words. Do I sense a unkind, critical spirit here? R U imparting grace? "speaking truth in love"? Venting? I want to give the benefit of the doubt brother. R U hitting on me or knocking shouting evangelists?

God gives peace.

I am using sarcasm mixed with humor to prove my point. Obviously it went right over your head.

You say you are not sure what my point is yet there is some heat in my words. Ditto to what passes off as biblical "Preaching" in so many so-called "Fundamentalist" Churches.

Seems to me that someone ought to lighten up a bit!

    
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Ray, your problem is you are

Ray, your problem is you are conflating two separate streams of Fundamental Baptists. Those you describe have their roots (two if not three generations back) in the SBC. There is a whole slew of men Minnick, Bauder, Innes, et. al whose roots are in the Northern Baptist movement (again two if not three generations back). By conflating the two, you make your point irrelevant.

Ray S wrote:
FredK wrote:
Ray S wrote:
Certainly there has to be some substance amongst all that hollering, shouting, spitting, slobbering, throwing down microphone stands, and generally throwing a temper tantrum!!!!

If you do not preach with a six-foot flame coming out your nostrils, you must be one of those pink lemonade sippin', lace on your britches, panty waist sissy liberal preachers!!!!

Brother Ray, I am not sure what your point is yet is there some heat in your words. Do I sense a unkind, critical spirit here? R U imparting grace? "speaking truth in love"? Venting? I want to give the benefit of the doubt brother. R U hitting on me or knocking shouting evangelists?

God gives peace.

I am using sarcasm mixed with humor to prove my point. Obviously it went right over your head.

You say you are not sure what my point is yet there is some heat in my words. Ditto to what passes off as biblical "Preaching" in so many so-called "Fundamentalist" Churches.

Seems to me that someone ought to lighten up a bit!

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