NH church at center of 1997 teen rape; police investigate whether leaders knew about assault“I was completely humiliated,” Anderson said, her voice quavering at the memory. “I hoped it was a nightmare I’d wake up from, and it wouldn’t be true anymore.”Concord Detective Chris DeAngelis learned of her case through a Facebook page titled “Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Cult Survivors.”Earlier post here
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NewTrinity Baptist Church responds...
http://www.tbcnh.org/contact_us/article245254.htm
Don’t rush to judgment yet. Confident that the truth will come out. Psalm 27.
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Views expressed are always my own and not my employer's, my church's, my family's, my neighbors', or my pets'. The house plants have authorized me to speak for them, however, and they always agree with me.
NewI think the police dropped the ball back in '97
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NewVery well
NewLearn from it
As much as we need to be careful when discussing this, it’s a good time for church leadership to ask themselves what they would have done in a similar situation, especially since we can see these repercussions from this situation years later.
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NewJust the facts
I am familiar with two similar situations. in the first, the adult male church member had sex with a teenager and was confronted with his crime. The pastor escorted him to the authorities, where he turned himself in and did his time in prison. In the second, the adult male church member was seduced by a 15 year-old (she testified to the fact that she had seduced him) and he chose to defend himself on those grounds. The judge ruled that there was no excuse for a man having sex with a child and the perpetrator is in prison.
If you were guilty of a crime, would you wait for the police to arrest you or would you turn yourself in to the authorities?
All of us are still getting the facts in this case and there still is much to learn.
"Some things are of that nature as to make one's fancy chuckle, while his heart doth ache." John Bunyan
NewMore on Colorado connection
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NewThe disgruntled, disenfranchised
I know firsthand what it’s like to be the powerless victim of a pastor who “can do no wrong.” In my case (along with many others in that particular ministry), the shameful treatment came from the top, and there was no one to appeal to. If I had tried to tell a deacon how I was mistreated, I would be considered an unsubmissive troublemaker and summarily fired. It wouldn’t be the first time. I heard many former staff and church members spoken of disparagingly, but I eventually learned that their treatment was similar to my own, though perhaps for different reasons—none of which were justified. So, generally our family suffered silently so as not to jeopardize our income, and we prayed diligently for another place to serve. There were a few people outside the organization with whom we shared our story. Most listened quietly and offered the obligatory, “Well, we’ll pray something else opens up for you.” A few tried to offer some kind of defense of the pastor. But for the most part, we just took it. The deception—both we and the entire congregation were deceived—and the hurt, though, took its toll. For our part, my wife and I carry scars, fought and sometimes fight the bitterness battle, and will never be able to look at a large fundamentalist ministry with strong pastoral leadership without wondering how many people were broken and cast aside for the sake of “the empire.” I won’t begin to describe the effects on my children.
The sad thing is that were I and the many other victims to stand up and say “Hey, listen! This is wrong! This is what happened to us!”, there would be all kinds of smooth talk to spin things, and we would be the bitter, critical-spirited bad guys on a vendetta. We would be marginalized and the powers that be would stand with the abuser. I heard it with my own ears, enough times to keep my mouth shut.
Again, I emphasize that I am not saying that this is the case in the TBC, Concord situation. I’m simply encouraging us not to marginalize Tina Anderson and others whose comments are unflattering. They may very well be bitter, critical, and disgruntled…but they may also have been given a reason to be.
Newmore info still coming?
“I expected Ernie Willis to be arrested,” Phelps said. “So to prepare the church for his imminent arrest, I communicated with the church or had him communicate with the church that he had been unfaithful to his marital vows.
Chuck Phelps said the public confession was for unfaithfulness, not the crime of raping a minor. Reporting the accusation within 24 hours was appropriate, but the thought of allowing a child rapist to only publicly call (without shackles and an orange jumpsuit) his sin unfaithfulness to his wife is seemingly an almost unbelievable scenario. What excuse could there be for not immediately escorting this rapist to the police where his confession would be given…seduction or no seduction?
There is enough information here to makes us sick to our stomachs for this devastating crime and to provide insight about how we deal with each case of such accusation.
AHBPastor for Preaching and VisionGrace Church of the Valley
NewThe "Best Case"?
BTW- a good article on handling abuse matters like this is [URL=http://www.peacemaker.net/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=aqKFLTOBIpH&b…] “A Better Way to Handle Abuse”[/URL] by Ken Sande of Peacemaker Ministries. The article’s conclusion:
Greg Linscott
Marshall, MN
NewGood example
NewBoth sides
It’s a double-edged sword. On the one hand, we know how far events can be misconstrued and twisted by the accusers, but on the other, it seems SOP for folks to engage in covering up unethical, immoral, and even criminal activity that has taken place in a church body. We just can’t know what has taken place when we aren’t part of the problem or the solution.
It isn’t just church leadership that should keep good records, btw, but if a lay person is in a conflict/crisis, they should also keep records of correspondence and use witnesses to conversations whenever possible.
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NewDid that man, back in 1997
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In my situation referenced earlier, answers to the above questions are: 1) Never; 2) No one; 3) Rarely; 4) No way; 5) Are you kidding?
In contrast, if the answers are 1) very much so…2) a deacon/deacons or elder/elders… 3) yes… 4) yes…5) yes, then you can be 99% sure that a vocal, complaining, disgruntled (former) member is not worth listening to.
One of the things that troubles me when situations like TBC, Concord arise is a lack of willingness to say, “It would’ve been wiser had we __________.” The almost defiant “we did everything right…they did everything wrong” and “I don’t need to explain myself” attitudes tend to make me listen more attentively to the victim.
NewI am glad Phelps gave a
Roger Carlson, PastorBerean Baptist Church