Ministry Leadership

Discuss challenges and other topics that impact ministry leadership from all sides: elders, pastors, deacons, educators, church members, para-church leaders, etc.

Pastors, et. al. : Have you ever accepted a ministry position without a definite, clear sense of God's leading?

Looking for some practical ministry advice here. A church has extended a call to my husband come on as their pastor and we are in the middle of discerning the Lord's will. There is nothing apparently difficult about the situation but haven't yet felt a "spark" or anything to propel us forward other than he is currently underemployed working a secular job and is not currently using his gifting in the church. We've been praying that God would direct him to a pastorate in a certain geographic area and this opportunity has opened up. Still we're uncertain.

So my question is this (benefiting from your combined years of experience): when, how, why, what should be the compelling reasons to accept a call to a church? what would keep you from accepting?

John E. Ashbrook is now With God

Saw this at Dan Greenfield's place http://dangreenfield.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/pastor-john-e-ashbrook/

Although he is now gone, this man's sermons and writings should continue to be wonderfully helpful in pointing Christians to a Christ-centered life, and in helping pastors be Christ-pleasing pastors.

Requiescat in Pace, John Ashbrook.

Making Lemonade out of Lemons

In light of the Penn State scandal, how can we as churches ensure that this will not happen in our own congregations? I know that a very similar situation occurred in the church I grew up in. ... From my travels, I've seen numerous similar situations. This is not meant to be a blame game and pointing fingers. I would like to see this topic discuss constructive ways to prevent these scandals from occurring.

Christmas is on Sunday this year. What is your church doing?

We have a special program and are doing MORE than we usually do most Sundays
3% (1 vote)
We are maintaining our normal schedule
10% (3 votes)
We are having a service (or more), but paring down our schedule
77% (23 votes)
We have cancelled our services that day
10% (3 votes)
We have not decided
0% (0 votes)
We are doing something DIFFERENT (e.g., meeting offsite, shorter praise time, etc.) but still something
0% (0 votes)
Other
0% (0 votes)
Bah humbug. We're ignoring the whole thing.
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 30

Check Your Guns At the Door

Jim Elliff has some good thoughts for frequent bloggers and commenters:

Christian Communications: Check Your Guns At the Door,

Do you believe pastors are specially called to ministry and that call carries with it some level of authority?

Yes, true pastors are generally called specially to the ministry and a level of authority is included in that call
53% (8 votes)
Yes, but pastors have no more authority than lay elders
20% (3 votes)
No, pastors are not specifically called but do have more authority than a lay elder
7% (1 vote)
No, pastors not called and have no more authority than lay elders
7% (1 vote)
Other
13% (2 votes)
Total votes: 15

Whats wrong with SBC Churches in my area?

I have been to 6 SBC churches in my area (within 20 minutes) and 5/6 of them were depleted of many or any young people in their 20's - 30's. Many of them had large buildings but a small flock. The more contemporary rock based churches have flocks of young people, and the Fundamentalist churches also have many young people. It seems that people either want a contemporary seeker based church or they want a separatist based church. Whats your theory as t the decline of youth in the Southern Baptist Churches?

John

What's a reasonable expectation for prep time for teachers on an adult SS class (we call them ABF (Adult Bible Fellowships))?

Situation:

  • Suburban church
  • Reasonably well-educated people (most with college degrees (Bachelors). Many with Masters or PhDs (Various disciplines))
  • We use the Regular Baptist Press adult quarterlies for teachers
  • Class sizes vary from as small as 15 to past 50 (my class averages near 30)

Question:

  • What is a resonable expectation for adult teachers in terms of prep time and research material?
  • From another angle: Is this reasonable?
    • Be prepared to spend 5-8 hours in prep time prior to class
    • Research beyond the quarterly (commentaries)
    • Have prepared notes beyond the quarterly (I hate to see a guy stand up with the quarterly in hand!)

What is the most significant need (or blindspot) among members of your local church?

will not work or accept church responsibilities
0% (0 votes)
more need to tithe
0% (0 votes)
low moral standards
17% (2 votes)
irregularly attend worship
25% (3 votes)
doctrinally ignorant
17% (2 votes)
need to witness more faithfully
0% (0 votes)
children are out of order
0% (0 votes)
wives are not submissive to husbands
8% (1 vote)
husbands do not love wives
0% (0 votes)
other
17% (2 votes)
music issues
0% (0 votes)
need more fire, power, filling of Spirit
17% (2 votes)
Total votes: 12