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In just over two weeks all the campaigning, debating, advertising and analyzing will be over and it’ll all be up the Electoral College.

As a little election-season fun, see if you can guess what the Electoral College result will be.

If you need a little help figuring out a good guess, you might find these helpful: The Electoral College, and 2012 Presidential Election. Post your best guess in the comment section.

Prize: the winner will receive a copy of two books:

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Whoever is closest to the actual electoral vote is the winner. Ties will be drawn from a hat (or similar randomizing tool). The contest is open to all registered SI users (register here), but the Publisher and Moderators, etc. are not eligible for the prize (only bragging rights). The deadline for your “prediction” is midnight, Friday, November 2.

(But don’t wait until Nov. 2, to post your guess. You can always revise it until the deadline.)

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RCP

Also quite helpful: Real Clear Politics

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A good modeling tool

http://www.270towin.com/ 

 

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Romney = 285 / Obama = 253

[I’m not eligible to win the books but I’m in it for the bragging rights!]

From my blog:

  • Virginia, Florida and Ohio: I’m hopeful that all go to Romney. I think he needs all three
  • Recent polling has Romney up in Pennsylvania.
  • Nebraska and Maine split electoral votes by congressional district. I gave Obama all of Maine and 1 from Nebraska
  • I think that Colorado and Nevada could go for Romney but I left in Obama column
  • I’ve seen some polls that suggest that Wisconsin could go Romney but I left that in the Obama column as well
  • Romney = 285 / Obama = 253
  • My shared Electoral vote map from 270 to win: Peet’s prediction
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I think it would be awesome if this happened...

Romney wins Florida, Virginia, Colorado, Iowa, Nevada

Obama wins Ohio, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Wisconsin

Electoral college ends in a 269-269 tie. House of Representatives elects Romney

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Romney 350 / Obama 188

Call me an optimist, but I see current trends continuing, with Romney gaining momentum. Pretty much any state that had less than a 6% Obama lead using yesterday’s RCP numbers, I’ve got in the Romney column.

So I’ve got FL, PA, MI, WI and NV and OH all going to Romney. I have MN in the Obama column—they’re about as crazy as CA over there. :D

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AL   9
AK   3
AZ   11
AR   6
CA 55  
CO   9
CT 7  
DE   3
DC 3  
FL   29
GA   16
HI 4  
ID   4
IL 20  
IN   11
IA   6
KS   6
KY   8
LA   8
ME 4  
MD   10
MA 11  
MI   16
MN 10  
MS   6
MO   10
MT   3
NE   5
NV   6
NH   4
NJ 14  
NM 5  
NY 29  
NC   15
ND   3
OH   18
OK   7
OR 7  
PA   20
RI 4  
SC   9
SD   3
TN   11
TX   38
UT   6
VT 3  
VA   13
WA 12  
WV   5
WI   10
WY   3
  188 350

 

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my prediction

Romney-286

Obama-252

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No one is predicting Romney

No one is predicting Romney will lose? I still think his victory is all but certain. I'm hopeful but cautious.  As for numbers. I gotta do some more digging (I'll wait till Nov 1 - but isn't the election on Nov 6 this year anyway? Wink

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Re isn't the election on Nov 6 this year anyway?

Bob Hayton wrote:

No one is predicting Romney will lose? I still think his victory is all but certain. I'm hopeful but cautious.  As for numbers. I gotta do some more digging (I'll wait till Nov 1 - but isn't the election on Nov 6 this year anyway? Wink

Yup! We decided to close the contest at end of day on 11/2 because polling tends to converge and be more accurate on the eve of the election.

 

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Theory

...maybe more of a hypothesis: in this high-data age, people don't pay attention to the Next Big Event until it's pretty close. This is why it is taking so many so long to figure out what ought to have been obvious more than a year ago.

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Murphy *was* an optimist

Bob Hayton wrote:

No one is predicting Romney will lose? I still think his victory is all but certain. I'm hopeful but cautious.  As for numbers. I gotta do some more digging (I'll wait till Nov 1 - but isn't the election on Nov 6 this year anyway? Wink


Well, I'm sure not predicting a Romney win. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just not seeing a big groundswell of support for Romney. I think it's too close to call, though I think it's too much to hope for an electoral college tie!

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If the election does end up tied and being decided in the House of Representatives, the Senate chooses the VP.  If the Democrats retain control of that body (the voting is done by the new Congress, not the old one) they could and likely would choose Biden for VP.  Not likely, but it would be interesting.

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Obama still has the edge

I was a political science major. The pressure is on. If I were to predict what I think will happen rather than what I hope: 284-254 Obama. I hope to revise soon.

 

Also, I thought it was really cute of the author of the post to put "prediction" in quotes: just to make sure we're not talking about any prophecy going down on SI right? HAHAHA

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There are professors of political science who believe Romeny not only has the edge but will win.

So much for that.

The momentum is toward Romney. The pivot is similar than the Regan/Carter pivot. You will not see as great a win as Reagan but it will not be questionable in the least. Romney in the + 300 electoral votes, likely mid 300's. New Jersey and New York could be unanticipated shockers.

However, the demographic, unlike 1980, is a bit different. Cry Baby Boomers had come of age and were throwing off their adolescent political naivety in mass (at least on this occasion). Today the X-Gens and Millennial are not as "group similar". They don't move as a unit quite the same as the Cry Baby Boomers did.

I believe you will get a similar effect with them but not as large a percentage as the Cry Baby Boomers had in their pivot and coupled with Latino uncertainty based on the racialization/ethnicization of the presidential race which will contribute more to Obama than Romney than it did to Carter vs Reagan, the Romney momentum and win will be similar but not identical.

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Electoral: Romney 342 Obama

Electoral: Romney 342 Obama 196 but when I win please give my prize to the second place person.

Popular: Romney 52% Obama 47% (just like Mitt described)

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Monday debate

The Monday debate could call for some revisions. Three general outcomes:

1. Not decisive one way or the other (pretty likely)

2. Increases Romney momentum (very possible)

3. Turns momentum in Obama's direction (not impossible, but least likely scenario)

If we see #2, then in the ensuing week, some of the holdout "battleground" states begin to poll for Romney by election day and a few of the historically Democrat states move into "toss up" column (and a few go to Romney)

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I won't need revisions

I won't need revisions myself. But I am sure others might.

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Don't forget about 2000

In the announcement, it might have been better to end that opening statement with ". . .and it’ll all be up the Electoral College and the courts."

Many states could be close, and I'm sure both camps have lawyers lined up to challenge results that went against them, or to defend results in their favor.

Since Bush v. Gore, we've seen two more high-profile, drawn-out recounts, in Washington and Minnesota, both of which resulted in a win for the Democrat.

 

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337 Romney 201 Obama

337 Romney 201 Obama

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I want Alex's prize!

Alex Guggenheim wrote:

Electoral: Romney 342 Obama 196 but when I win please give my prize to the second place person.

Popular: Romney 52% Obama 47% (just like Mitt described)

 

p.s. Crybaby is 1 word!

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JohnBrian wrote: Alex

JohnBrian wrote:

Alex Guggenheim wrote:

Electoral: Romney 342 Obama 196 but when I win please give my prize to the second place person.

Popular: Romney 52% Obama 47% (just like Mitt described)

 

p.s. Crybaby is 1 word!

Thanks Brian. I plead literary license since, imo, Cry Baby Boomer, is visually more distinct.

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Not that I want it, but...

Obama = 277

Romney = 261 

 

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too much agreeing

Alex Guggenheim wrote:

JohnBrian wrote:

p.s. Crybaby is 1 word!

Thanks Brian. I plead literary license since, imo, Cry Baby Boomer, is visually more distinct.

And once again I agree with you.

To manipulate a quote by one of SC's former senators, Fritz Hollings:

"there's too much agreeing going on out there."

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Romney by a slim margin

Romney - 276 (wins Florida, Ohio, Virginia, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Nevada)

Obama - 262 (wins Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Colorado)

 

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I'm afraid....

I'm afraid that Obama and the democrats are going to hi-jack the election some way ie. starting riots, declaring martial law, rigging the voting machine.  I wouldn't put anything past him since he uses executive orders for whatever he wants to accomplish.  There is no way he's going to walk away gracefully and dignified. 

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As of right now, I've got Obama winning by 277-266 EC votes.  I'm giving Romney VA and FL, but I've got Obama winning OH, MI, WI, and PA for an insurmountable lead.  I'm also praying fervently that doesn't come true. 

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Executive orders

Some of the punditry are spreading confusion about executive orders. Though it's possible to overstep authority, these orders are completely legal when they address matters in any of the Departments under the executive branch--and when there isn't specific legislation limiting them further.

So a President can't, for example, use an executive order to change how elections operate in any particular state or in all of them. The states would simply ignore an order like that, I would think.

The real problem is that the executive department bureaucracy has grown so immense that the exec. branch now has enormous regulatory power via EO, if it chooses to use that. Shrinking that back down seriously is a really tough sell politically. Though Romney Ryan talk about doing this some, they haven't suggested anything on the scale that's really needed, IMO.... and it's pretty hard to tell where it fits in their priorities (I'd guess more campaign promises are broken by "not getting around to it" than by "I never meant it in the first place").

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If I am right and Romney wins VA and FL, then he only has to pick off one of the Obama states I listed to win the election.  So that's good news.

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Debate

Pretty decent debate for MR. Not fabulous but challengers always have some difficulty distinguishing themselves in foreign policy debates w/sitting presidents. Managed to look well informed, "presidential," confident, calm... it's about all he needed to do, though a slam dunk would have been nice.

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A few things pointed out

A few things pointed out today by Steve Deace, a national radio talk show host (albeit still fairly small at this point) who started out on talk radio here in Des Moines. He lives here in Des Moines and is a born-again believer.

All this year I have been comparing this election to 2004. How similar is it? Barack Obama is at about 60% on Intrade two weeks before the election, which is exactly where George W. Bush was two weeks before the election in 2004. All time in American history incumbent presidents have won re-election about 70% of the time. Since 1896, the only 4 incumbent presidents to lose either faced a primary or a Great Depression.

Two things:

  1. I would want to know how the momentum shift in recent weeks compares to 2004. I don't remember. Was John Kerry gaining ground on Bush in the last month before the election? If not, it might not be an exact comparison because Romney has been gaining ground on Obama in the last month.
  2. Obama didn't face a primary, but the current economy draws some comparisons to a Great Depression scenario in that one of the questions people have is how much responsibility he bears for the bad economy.
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I do understand

I do understand that executive orders are legal and not to override powers given to other branches of our government.  But Obama uses them for whatever he wants including making appointments that he can't push through Congress.  Therefore, I don't trust him.  States have tried to control the illegals situation, the voter identification measures, and healthcare reform overrides and the courts at best have in some cases let them go through restricted in other cases the states basically had their hands tied.  What's to stop him from doing something to the election?

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Elections

Elections are operated by state bureaucracies under state laws. Though it's difficult, it's possible to illegally interfere with them through surrogates and old fashioned things like bribery and organized voter fraud. But it's very difficult to do this on a large enough scale to win a national election. It's very difficult to do at all other than at an isolated poll or two.

We had a push for voter ID in Wisconsin that has, so far, failed. But it had nothing to do with Obama. There are just a fair number of people in high places (especially courts) who believe getting an ID is undue hardship for voters... and some argue that the hardship is disproportionately heavy on minorities. (I don't buy that, of course)

I trust Obama to do what he believes in. To me, that's the problem: a political philosophy much at odds with how human beings and the world work.

Greg wrote:
Two things:

  1. I would want to know how the momentum shift in recent weeks compares to 2004. I don't remember. Was John Kerry gaining ground on Bush in the last month before the election? If not, it might not be an exact comparison because Romney has been gaining ground on Obama in the last month.
  2. Obama didn't face a primary, but the current economy draws some comparisons to a Great Depression scenario in that one of the questions people have is how much responsibility he bears for the bad economy.

It's interesting the different ways the "No ______ has ever _______" analyses work out. For example, nobody with a Nov. unemployment rate above 7.2 has ever been reelected. But you can plug in criteria that produce contradictory conclusions. "No President who's last name starts with O. has ever failed to be reelected." Laughing out loud

Tried to find some data on Kerry in '04 in weeks before the vote. No hits yet. What I vaguely recall is that his numbers were pretty flat at that point. But I could be wrong.

Edit: Greg, check this out

Looks like Kerry trended very slightly higher through late Sep and early Oct then peaked on Oct 22 in Real Clear averages.... but other than a brief bounce in August, he was never ahead.

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Things have to go perfectly

I'm heartened to see the late breaking voters going Romney. As a poli-sci guy, here's the thing with poll watching: it's always an accurate measure of how people think now, not necessarily how they'll think on election day. Polls become far more accurate in the final 2-3 days of the campaign. 

I'm hopeful that Romney can pull it out, but he needs things to go perfect in a lot of states he's slightly ahead in (FL, VA, CO) plus he's GOT to win Ohio. Here's my RCP map if everything goes well for Romney. 

If Romney does win, it will be an amazing turn of events. 

 

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Looks the RCP "Create Your Own Map" tool is cookie based or something.... your link appears to be showing the current averages or something... with 18 toss up states.

BTW, there are a couple of scenarios where he can win it without Ohio. Long shots but the probably is more than zero. 

http://theweek.com/article/index/234804/how-mitt-romney-can-win-without-...

http://washingtonexaminer.com/yes-romney-can-win-without-ohio/article/25...

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Aaron, I think Shaynus left Ohio undecided in his RCP scenario.

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I know there are a few other scenarios, but it pretty much all comes down to Ohio.

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Misread

Yeah, I misread the map . . . 18 toss up electoral votes, not 18 toss up states.

 

If he manages to get OH and FL (currently leads there) and all the historically "red" states, he only needs two of the current toss-up states to win. Either VA (currently a tie in the polls) or CO (currently whisker-thin lead) would do. O's lead in OH is now down to 1.9 and seems to be shrinking in WI and a few others. Hard to tell what's happening in MI.

Would be nice if RR could find a way to clearly and memorably explain to MI and the nation why bankruptcy would have been so much better for the auto industry than the bail-out approach. (What's tricky with that is to show how it would have been better without predicting that the bailout will fail--which it eventually will. It's just that this would be a bad time to tell MI "The bailout approach is mostly like only a temporary fix")

What RR needs now is a dramatic error in the OB administration/campaign to seal the deal.  There is still some chance Benghazi will do it, depending on what un-ignorable info comes to light.

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That's the key reason why I think car country (including Michigan and Ohio) will be tough for Romney. Obama is in the tank for the car industry. Romney has to have nearly every close race go his way, while Obama needs a handful. I also look at individual Senate races in these key states and see Democrats up in nearly all of them. This could mean reverse coat-tails for Obama.

 

Aaron, could you do an RCP map and link it? I'm not sure the math works out without Ohio or Wisconsin. Do your map, then hit the email button and copy the link.

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An electoral tie simulation

An electoral tie simulation

(this is not my prediction … but it would be interesting)

And then what would happen

 

 

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Shaynus wrote:Aaron, could

Shaynus wrote:
Aaron, could you do an RCP map and link it? I'm not sure the math works out without Ohio or Wisconsin. Do your map, then hit the email button and copy the link.

I'll give it a whirl

... Sure enough. Had some errors. For some reason I had Delaware and Maryland in the Romney column. Corrected, if he gets OH and FL and all the historically red states, he's still shy a few (I think I also might have have a couple not "historically red" but currently leaning Romney)

So if he gets OH and FL, he also needs either VA or CO and IA. 

In this map, I gave CO to ObamaBiden but OH, FL, VA and IA to RomneyRyan. RR is more likely to get CO and lose IA... though I still think they get both in the end.

(This is not a new prediction, though. I need to revise my original to get DE, MD and maybe another out of RR column)

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More on electoral vote tie

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/25/14700653-recount-tie-how...

 

Interesting (but I think unlikely)

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Number 1: Dan Phillips: "The World-Tilting Gospel: Embracing a Biblical Worldview and Hanging on Tight"

 

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Prize # 2

Adam Blumer's: "Fatal Illusions: A Novel"

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Reminder

You don't have to have a complex type of answer (like Aaron's above) or have a click through to a map 

Your entry can be as simple as: Obama will win: 285-253. 

Whoever is closest will receive both prizes! 

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I modified my numbers

My new guess is Romney wins 348 to 190.  I think he will actually take MN this time.  I lived in MN most of my life and Romney is just the kind of guy MN's would vote for as governor.  I just saw the Star Tribune poll and Obama was leading in MN but it had a +13 Dem sample.  I also gave one of the Maine split votes to Romney.

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My hopeful guess is 295-243

My hopeful guess is 295-243 in favor of Romney

 

split vote 5-1 in NE/ 3-1 in ME

WI, IA, OH, CO, VA, FL, NC, NH to Romney riding the momentum to the White House.

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I'm starting to think there could be a surprising conclusion to a race that has been declared a dead heat. The AZ Republic, as liberal as most any media outlet, endorsed Romney this week. It was shocking, to say the least.

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"Incumbent Rule" favors Romney

Hugh Hewitt cited statistics from at article at Polling Reports that gives hope to us Romney supporters.  Rich Lowry on Hugh's show mentioned a political observer named Josh Jordan, who has been watching and analyzing Ohio closely, and says that Romney has a good chance there.

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I still say if election were

I still say if election were held today Obama would win. Momentum is definitely in Romney's favor but he needs to continue the upward trajectory.

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Today...

Likely if the vote was today he would. I think Ohio is not there yet, nor is WI, though I suspect both will be by E day.

... but there's still time for a reversal in O's favor. (I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop on the Benghazi business, though. There's much that doesn't seem to add up in that story.)

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Tabulating entries thus far

Hey Shayne McAllister: Your prediction on 10/23 left Ohio blank. Please add a new post with that clarified. 

 

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Spreadsheet thus far

 

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I did the lettering myself (to save S/I $$)

 

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Revised prediction

My revised electoral score. Fixed an error or two and also moved PA back to Obama. Michigan might still go Romney. I still think OH will. I think FL will hold.

So...

Obama loses 225 to 313

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325-213 win for Romney

p.s. close to Aaron's numbers

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my previous prediction

my previous prediction stands. that other map was for argumentation purposes only. 

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My first comment was not intended to be specifically a prediction, rather a general statement. My post after that is my only specific prediction per your attractive chart.

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The polls...

Here is an interesting article that shows how easy it is for the polls to get the results they want just by skewing the polling sample to the party of their choice. 

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/31/final-cbsnytq-polls-in-oh-fl-va-sh...

Here is another one:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/31/ppp-obama-leads-by-5-in-ohio-5045/

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This one is interesting also, though I don't get what the graphs are supposed to mean.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-polling-quandary-buckeye...

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Election "Prediction"

Romney 290

Obama 248

 

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Romney 279

Obama 259

 

I can only hope.

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Hope I'm wrong!

I hope I'm wrong but I don't see Romney getting over the top.

Obama - 271

Romney - 267

 

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Jared, I tend to agree with

Jared, I tend to agree with you. Romney's momentum has definitely leveled off.

Romney's only hope is if the polls are consistently oversampling Democrats. Many polls are based on 2008 voter models and some pundits think Democratic turnout will be lower than 2008.

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Ohio analysis

Just heard an interesting analysis of the Ohio race.

Per this pundit, in 2008, 47% of Ohio voted for McCain. He reasons like this: 

  • Who are that 47% going to vote for this time?
  • How likely is it that Romney will gain 3% among the rest?

To him the answer is obvious. He's convinced Romney will actually win more than 52% in OH.

Of course, that raises the question why are so many polls not showing that? He says certain demographics are being undersampled.  Rasmussen does have Romney up by 2 in OH.

Supposedly there is also a history of pollsters getting OH wrong. I don't know if that's the case or not (or in what direction they are usually wrong).

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Romney 270

Obama 268

Obama wins Ohio and Colorado, Romney pulls out a win in Wisconsin and Florida.

 

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Just like the pollsters

Ok, Aaron. We're close enough to election day now, I think you should just call it and announce a winner. 

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My final guess 295 -

My final guess

295 - Romney

243 - Obama

Romney sweeps the swing states + WI, with the exception of Nevada.

I think the national polling in Romney's favor + the state polling being tilted toward more of a 2008 voter turnout / voter party split + the attitudes of the different campaigns seem to indicate that Obama's on the way out. I may easily be wrong, but I'm hopeful that we'll see change.

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Romney -275

Obama - 263

 

Romney wins FL, NC, VA, CO and OH

Obama holds on to NV, IA, WI, PA, NH

Almost giving Romney Iowa (which would make the split 281-257), but for now, I'll leave it like it is.

 

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Reminder .... deadline is Friday 11/2 at midnight

Thanks all for your participation. Others ... please submit your prediction by end of day Friday 11/2

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Romney 289 Obama 249

Romney 289

Obama 249

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Romney 272

Obama 266

 

But frankly, I may be a little overly optimistic.  I also believe that it is highly likely that Romney could win the popular vote, while Obama wins the electoral vote.

The winner will be the campaign and party that does the better job of actually getting its self-described "supporters" to the polls.

I also think that Romney spoke the truth when he inarticulately tried to say that 47% of the population would not vote for him under any circumstances.

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Please, Lord, not an Obama win!

Romney 291, Obama 247

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Humor alert: Broccoli Obama or Meat Romney?

http://youtu.be/ltCIEbLMaQg

 

 

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Let them eat meat!!

Meat! meat! meat!

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Another proof the election is settled

REPUBLICANS HAVE WON EVERY NOVEMBER 6TH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION SINCE 1860

Starting in 1792, states had a range of dates on which to conduct presidential elections, but in 1845 Congress standardized the date so it would always be the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. Since then presidential elections have been held on dates ranging from November 2nd to November 8th with each date coming up about six times in a fairly regular pattern. The date November 6th has always been a good one for Republicans:
1860 - Abraham Lincoln over Stephen Douglas
1888 - Benjamin Harrison over incumbent Grover Cleveland
1900 - William McKinley over William Jennings Bryan
1928 - Herbert Hoover over Al Smith
1956 - Dwight Eisenhower over Adlai Stevenson
1984 - Ronald Reagan over Walter Mondale

Republicans Have Won Every November 6th Presidential Election Since 1860

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Romney wins both popular vote and Electoral College

Romney 285  (Including FL, NC, VA, CO, IA, NH and OH)

Obama 253

This is identical to Jim's prediction.

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Naw, but it's my best guess:

Obama 294 over Romney 244. Prize to JohnBrian if I win (my shelves are already overloaded).

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Here's the reason...

Here's the reason I'm on the fence about the outcome of this election. 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/02/claims-increasing-switched-vo...

 

I just don't trust the left. 

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Romney Wins

Romney 309 (w/FL, NC, VA, PA, NH, OH, WI, CO

Obama 229

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NBC news has a info packed election guide

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Tea...

 

 

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Re: Michelle Shuman

at least in ohio, the voting machine problems could be the result of the republican secretary of state applying last-minute uncertified updates http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2012/4768

fortunately, so far, all the people who say the machine wasn't correctly accepting their selection have been able to correct the situation before finalizing their vote.

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On not trusting the left

Michelle Shuman wrote:
Here's the reason I'm on the fence about the outcome of this election. 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/02/claims-increasing-switched-vo...

I just don't trust the left. 

Seems like every year there are (and I am being generous with my term here) "voting irregularities". 

 

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Naw, but it's my best guess: Obama 294 over Romney 244. Prize to JohnBrian if I win (my shelves are already overloaded).

I hope either you or I win!

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Jim wrote: Seems like every

Jim wrote:

Seems like every year there are (and I am being generous with my term here) "voting irregularities". 

 

Don't forget the Gregoire - Rossi race for governor in Washington, 2004.

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Latest 538 poll summary - swing states

If this holds ... Obama wins

 

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/swing-state-tracker?ref=politics

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The qualifier at the bottom

The qualifier at the bottom of the NYT poll article says:

Latest polls” only includes polls that meet the methodological standards of The Times’s News Surveys department.

Hmmm...left wing NYT and their "news survey department" doing some last minute polling in a close race. Hmmm....nah, they wouldn't have favorable samplings for Obama...not the NYT.

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Final on predictions (Excel spreadsheet)

Final on predictions (Excel spreadsheet)

 

If anything looks out of line PM me

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Jim wrote:If this holds ...

It all comes down to whose voter turnout models are correct. Silver assumes the makeup of the electorate will be similar to 2008. This author believes it will be different and explains exactly why:

http://www.redstate.com/2012/10/31/on-polling-models-skewed-unskewed/

See also:

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/332386/parsing-polls-michael-g-franc

And notice what this article says we can learn from early voting:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83248.html

But of course you can find just as many articles saying the opposite. This really is an amazing election in that the experts really are divided on what will happen.

 

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WSJ article today re evangelical vote

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020370760457809096226720089...

 

It's generally thought that the president burned any remaining bridge to [the evangelicals] with the gay-marriage decision that Joe Biden made for him. But it's more complicated than one issue.

Four years ago, evangelicals mainly supported former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. When John McCain became the nominee, he and the evangelical community never connected, and many evangelicals stayed home. This time they are in motion.

The president of Ohio Christian University, Mark A. Smith, says, "The intensity of voters in the faith community is as high as I've seen it in the last 12 years." The driver of that intensity is religious liberty. "We took a direct hit with the Affordable Care Act," he says. Evangelicals watched the Obama administration's big public fight with Catholic hospitals and charities. What they concluded is that the health-care law was a direct threat to their own private outreach programs.

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Another Ohio article

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/03/Obama-Cleveland-80k-c...

re Obama's "enthusiasm gap"

 

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